Wednesday, March 9, 2016

what is Allergy (any kind of)? #Ayurveda approach..and management

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Germany Helga Fuchs: Allergy: lifestyle, food, (incompatible food), any wrong contakt for prakrti. Food allergy is incompatibility of food  (Rasa, veerya, vipaka, with strenght of agni).  Digestion is disturbed. Ama.
Vd. Ajay Pithiya: Allergy  also denoted as hypersensitivity..  When a person or his body reacts stronlgy against any substance (live or dead) by the virtue of symptoms …..We can understand this by an example.. If pakistan army fight with indian army during war time its normal (no allergy), but if pakistani army continues the attack during cease fire also, this is called hypersensitivity…….Immune mechanism is responsible for this reactions..  Ayurveda stated this as bala (बल)…..Ayurveda scripts supports 3 types of bala.. 
Sahaj (सहज) natural - from the birth time,  natural immunity…..Kalaj (कालज) -  as growth nd development take place..  Kalaj bala increases….Yuktikrut (युक्तिकृत) - by the mean of healthy diet nd life style and with use of some drugs we can acquire this bala …….So for any of allergic reaction (allergic rhinitis or atopic dermatitis) besides the symptomatic management bala vruddhi (बलवृद्धि) is needed..  Which can be achieved by immunomodulator drugs….The word Bala (बल) simply means strength
Dr. Dipak Shirude:  Nowadays, Allergy is a trump card word. Whenever a medical practitioner fails in diagnosis or patient can not be relieved in stipulated time, allergy is declared. Many times being on safer side and not to loose the patient at earliest, practitioners use this word vigorously. Many patients also put them into the patients chair, saying that he is a sufferer of allergy.  First we have to see the patient thoroughly with all the Ayurved concepts especially from responsible factors (hetu or nidaan) and then doshik involvement in the samprapti i.e. flowchart of progress of an ailment. Once we decide dosh responsible for his signs and symptoms, we can plan shodhan and shaman chikitsa as per the situation. This will cure him. Then we have to make arrangement for apunarudbhav chikitsa which will avoid recurrence of the disease.  Generally what we denote allergy is pratishyaya or pinas or a kind of kushtha i.e. skin disorder. If we go by above criterion, we get success. And there remains no question of allergy. Yet, the terms said in Ayurved as ……..Saatmya - Asatmya - Oksatmya  are somewhat nearer to the so called allergy.
Consumption of an Asatmya causes imbalance of doshas and therefore result into an ailment. There is ample description of such things scattered in samhitas. One can find it if he tries to go through the samhitas in that regard or intention. Charak has even stated about Asatmya Jal i.e. drinking water. If someone migrated in the area where he or she cannot suit the water available there, he should not give up but with time he will make his body adjustable to suit the available water. These minute things described in samhitas are a great vision provided to us and we can create effective policy against the real allergic conditions.
The recent example of water reveals the fact that every time we can not run away from causative factors but we have to mould our natural psychosomatic tendency to adjust with the nature. And we are doing it currently also. We consume so many pesticides and artificial things which are like poison but we are surviving. This is nature. We are adjusting many many Asatmya things nowadays. These Asatmya, we can say allergens are all around us. In our air, water, food, fruits, vegetables, oils, ghrit, our clothing ... nothing is exempted from allergens. Only some of us, sometimes get ill and we have all the therapies in Ayurved like Panchkarma, Rasayan chikitsa and Swasthvritta rules as well as Aacharan to save humanity from these hazardous unwanted allergens.
After a long long thinking and studying principles of Ayurved ad well as many preparations available in market, I have found some great formulations that we can randomly use to tackle successfully these so called allergic situations. Some of the main contents I can state here are : 3 well-known rasayan fruits, shwet sariwa, guggulu, kanchanar, rajani etc.
Finally I can state that, an Ayurved vaidya should not make himself confused in modern way of thinking about allergy. Just forget that hypersensitivity and that histamine and all those hypotheses. Only see the patient, his constitution, his way of living, his detailed history regarding his illness and make pure Ayurved treatment plan for him including samshodhan as well as shaman chikitsa. Show him pathway for ideal healthy living. Take keen observation of the patients routine even about teeth and mouth washing - bathing soaps - hair oils etc. everything. Find faults and correct them. That is all to conquer over allergy !!!
Dr. Meghdoot Satvekar:  In allergy their is vat , patta prakope , may be due to worm infestation , main content of hingwastak churn is hingu which is  used  indigestion and other stomach problems. Its anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant properties alleviate upset stomach, intestinal gas, intestinal worms, flatulence. so I suggest to add this along with other medicine .
Satyen: Can nasya of Anu tail help in dealing with allergy?
Dr. Prerak Shah: Yes. Nasya treatment can be helpful to counteract respiratory allergies. Medicine came be anu oil or any other as per the case may be.
Satyen: Even nasya of cow ghee or waxing with erand tail may be helpful... I suppose..
Dr. Arun Tiwari: Eosinophilia can be idiopathic (primary) or, more commonly, secondary to another disease. allergic or atopic diseases are the most common causes, especially those of the respiratory or integumentary systems. In the developing world, parasites are the most common cause. A parasitic infection of nearly any bodily tissue can cause eosinophilia. Diseases that feature eosinophilia as a sign include the following:
Allergic disorders - Asthma[4], Hay fever[4], Drug allergies[4], Allergic skin, diseases[4], Pemphigus[4] Dermatitis herpetiformis
In allergic asthma "ghrit bhrashtr Haridra" controls eosinophils, practically I useses yoga of malla specially 'suvarn sameer pannag ras', and skin allergies rasmanikya is best medicine.
Dr. J. T. Contractor: I think body metabolism of individual defers,it accepts certain food, matches a particular atmosphere,skin too tolerates certain type of cloth,& rejects other types could b allergy! V find people taking 3-4 days old cooked food & digest well( beggars etc), but some people eat next day food falling sick or some times food poisoning! I think allergy has some thing to do with immunity! Stronger is the immunity lesser may b the after effects! It seems, a very thin line in between
Vd. Bhavesh Thakkar: Haridrakhand i hv found very useful in most of allergies. It can be combined with other drugs according to conditions. Haridra is dry, good for skin, good for prameha, blood disorders, swelling, anemia and wound.
Dr. Sujata Vaidya: Allergy sufferers have deep fear and low esteem issues.  Allergies have no known aetiology .... treatment is usually to overcome debility caused by the trigger.  It us essential to resolve psychological aversion for any medication to work long term. Allergies disappear just as allergies appear....
Dr. Sumita Jaiswal: I have a recent patient of chronic allergic kandu...as well as allergic rhinitis...was giving him oral medication like khadirarista, panchanimba, virechak etc...but symptoms were fluctuating....for sometimes he felt totally relieved but in few days...symptoms recurred...now I have referd him for panchakarma....done wid vamana n now vasti would b done....so I feel in chronic patients of allergy....proper sodhan karma is necessary 1stly...wats every1s perspective?
Dr. Pradip Mohan Sharma Jaipur: Vaman and virechan, both are tremendously result oriented
Dr. Sumita Jaiswal: Similarly there was a father daughter duo wid eosnophilia....father was treated successfully wid oral medications but d daughter aged 3 yrs is still treatment..  There is reddish pimples like rashes all over her body wid itching....frankly I feel scared to apply some of our medicines to such a small child....plz guide…
Dr. Pradip Mohan Sharma Jaipur: Medicines are not very effective in many cases but PK is brilliantly good
Dr. J. T. Contractor: Alum salt (fitakdi) de solved in water & skin be washed with this water without wiping skin b exposed to tender sun rays, ( no soap shampoo for long time), apply malkankni oil gently on skin, repeat till optimum results
USA Parulben: For child pl use curd+ backing soda will give u drametic result. 1/2 cup curd + 1 spoon backing soda. Bath with karan soap. Sorry! This is for local application not to eat. Curd and soda you can apply 3 times/ day.
Dr. Arun Tiwari: Dr. Sumita kandu is not allergic condition. Kandu is similar to scabies. I think you are talking about Sheetpitta, udard and koth these are similar to allergie. The treatment is very different in each. Tankan is more effective than alum But this is temporary lakshnik treatment.
Dr. J. T. Contractor: Curd be acidic on skin if possible avoid
Dr. Arun Tiwari: Only ruksh swedan controls  acute condition of allergy like sheetpitt. Eczema (vicharchika) is chronic condition of allergy.
USA Parulben: Well we can eat curd even though it is acidic and curd and rice is first healthy protein rich food for child. Curd and honey first healthy shampoo for new born.
Dr. Jinal Thakkar: In Sheeta pitta or udarda even paribhadra works good as local application…I had used paribhadra ghrita…Itching is curbed… And so are the thick red eruptions
Dr. Arun Tiwari: I agree with Dr Ajmera in children its good use of curd is soumya do not harm skin.
Baroda Arti parimal: Make a paste of shami or khejada leaves apply on affected  part leave it for 15 minutes take bath with Luke warm water. After bathing apply rose water , glycerin and karpoor. Vachellia nilotica =khejada
Germany Helga Fuchs: How is general food for this child? In India most of small childs eat same spicy food as parents and many react with problems. Parents have to understand that spicy food for childs is creating problems. No information here about this point? If this simple regular habit is in right direction, big treatments most time not needed. Rice and Curd, for me is to heavy in this condition. Maybe needed about age, but in actual condition to much. applikation ok, Takra, butter milk, is, as I have my experiences more easy.
Dr. Sumita Jaiswal: Have prescribed tankan to d child for local application bt wat abt oral med?  Kapha aggravation should b there...n also she is a child….Hmmm curd n soda combo is new for me...for sure will try on some patients ....thanks… Allergic kasa n swasa patients r very much affected by d house in which they r living ...one of my patients was relieved only after he changed his room which was more airy n spacious....so avoiding d nidan is very much necessary…..
Dr. Dipali Poshtiwala: For skin allergy jatayadi ghrut, chandraprabhavati no. 2 very useful…Agreed with psychological factors bz of that allergy more occurs
Shri Minoo parabia: In cases of severe urticaria use this as first aid. Apply fresh juice of Nagarvel leaves.  Piper betel is Nagarvel. Even for asthma swaskuthar given with nagarvel leaf yields good result.
Exi kir: When body reacts badly to some elements like dust, fragrances, fur etc. it is called allergy. Allergy causes caugh or cold or head ache or itching or scares on skin etc.
Spain Juan Carlo Carlos: allergy is caused for accumulatiom of ama in the body..it leads to a continuos hiper activity of the innmune system and an  over reaction to external toxins...under my experience drecreasig or cleanig excess  of ama inmediatly improves allegy syntoms
Mrugesh j. parikh advocate: Prarakbhai,  thanks for this topic.... I am suffering from allergy since last 5 years... It starts from the end of February and goes after Holi ...
Dr. Sheetal Sumra: Which allergy?
Dr. Priti Vikas Agrawal: I have a alleragy of dust n daily in morning after wake up  sneezing is started about 15 -20 times in one attack .. Allergy of artificial jewellary also ..any type of like bangles swelling in hand ..earings redness in ear .. Necklase itching n rashes on neck
Dilip Patel: That is due to nikle metal which is used to bring shine in poling process.
Dr. Priti Vikas Agrawal: But this type of allergy is happened only with me ..not with my sister n mother…They also wear this jewellary
Dilip Patel: This depends on person to person. Wear jewellery of silver or polised without nickle process
Spain Juan Carlo Carlos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perilla_frutescens.....i had a very good experience using this plant as infussion three times a day for skinn chemical products allergy
Mrugesh j. parikh advocate: I am having allergy of pollen... Sneezing 400 to 500 with running nose, severe irritation inside nose, cough,  burning corners of eyes,  unable to breath with nose... Etc...
 Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Allergy and hypersensitivity both are different terms..don't be confused as same term...
Dr. Prerak Shah: @Vd. Pankajbhai: Pl elaborate
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Hypersensitivity means exaggerated immune response... Allergy is a type of hypersensitivity... Actually real meaning of hypersensitivity is - any tissue damaging immune reaction..there are four types of hypersensitivity , first three are antibody mediated hypersensitivity and fourth is cell mediated hypersensitivity....hypersensitivity is broad term mainly include allergy and autoimmunity... Allergy is caused by hypersensitivity of immune system....allergen are always ……Foreign, while there are other types of hypersensitivity where allergns are not foreign..example for autoimmunity where self tissue become immunogenic and immune response become exaggerated  against immunogenic tissue, called autoimmune disease.. So this condition of autoimmunity is called type 2 hypersensitivity..
Pulastya Vora: The tuber of fresh ginger has moisture I.e. Aadrata from which it is known as Adrak while when it becomes dry  - the condition is called Sushkta from which term coined is Sunthi
Vd. Hardik bhatt: A body shows a reaction on a special substance is like allergy ...It may be due to low immunity….To react allergy we have to fight 3 ways .. 1. To protect 2. Improve immunity 3. Remove extra aamdosh or toxins which r already in body ... By panchkarm o by medicine or by diet regimen
Dr. Sheetal Sumra: One patient walked in @clinic, Age 54 yr Old, She complains of DOE, Wheezing sound. Dryness in nose..  Currently she is on steroids…Since 6yrs….She has allergy of pigeon……I have started her with snehan, swedan, Nasya, Yoga, In 3sitting wheezing sound has reduced…
IPR Chhayaben: My brother had dust allergy which was solved by eating fresh ginger regularly with salt n lemon
Dr. Nikhil Baxi: sheetapitta relieved by eating ginger.
Dr. Pulastya Vora: Allergy and inflammation are reactions of our body against harmful substances. So they are not diseases but warnings given by our body. It is known as Prati (against or anti) Urjata (energy) or Praturjata. By this warnings body tries to tell us two things (1) we are come across with something which is harmful or dangerous to our life. (2) our body is not yet prepared to accept the substance or situation or body is yet to find out the process to detoxify (shodhan) the substance before it does any harm. So consider that it is a God-gifted time or God-sent opportunity to adjust to situation or substance. It may happen that after sometime you may accommodate your self with situation or substance which today you are unable to cope up. So do not be anxious or depressed. Take the situation lightly and try to understand your body.
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: I have come across patients with allergy due to aam. My mother has allergy both skin and rhinitis….As my mother i know the reason of accumulation of aam the reason is she used to fast a lot and after 10 days of fasting or even 40days of fasting very next moment she used to have normal food and start with chapati ….Which is very very wrong .........And in such cases i feel,  shodhan and particularly vaman will be beneficial. Comments awaited
Bharat dave: I have a allergy of lemon(limbu) i can not take single drop of lemon…Vomit all the food after taken lemon please give me the advise what i have to do? I always avoid food with lemon and never think about lemon juce
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Allergy is an individual's sensitivity to an foreign substance that is usually harmless..when allergy cause tissue damage ,its called type 1 tissue damaging allergic hypersensitivity.. There are 4 types of hypersensitivity
There are two types of type 1 hypersensitivity.  1) localised type 1 hypersensitivity----allergic rhinitis, allergic conjunctivitis, allergic angio oedema, hay fever, skin- hives, food allergy   2) generalized type 1 hypersensitivityanaphylactic shock, urticaria, respiratory distress...
Diagnostic test for allergy:
1) skin prick test  2) RAST- radio allegro immuno sorbent test …… ATOPY:- familial tendency to make IGE more frequently against the common environmental substances which in most population is non reactive..in atopy, father mother son all are allergic to particular allergen.. …..THYMUS:- thymus plays important role in education of lymphocytes... Tolerance or intolerance of lymphocytes against various allergens depends on education of lymphocytes in thymus during childhood... Recent studies suggest that diverse populations of regulatory T cells play an important role in regulating T helper type 2 responses to allergen. Thymus is active during childhood...so various immune modulators regimens of ayurveda can play important role in developing good immunity during childhood..
Ayurveda concept of allergy:-
In Ayurveda allergy is described as Asatmaya(incompatible- increasing discomfort)... There are four types of asatmaya:   1. rutu(season) asatmaya: its generally observed that pts with rhinitis have maximum presentation of signs and symptoms in rainy and spring seasons......2⃣ Desha(country/habitat) asatmaya: though living in the same environment conditions, some people remains healthy while only few of them will be allergic to certain things..example for some people develop asthma/ acidity in coastal area while some remain healthy. Traveller diarrhoea is also example of this type..in treatment of acidity, Kashyapa has mentioned leaving of anupa (coastal) Desha as a ultimate option of treatment…..3⃣ Roga (disease)asatmaya: Sour and fermented items increase problem of urticaria. …4⃣ oaka(Naturally) asatmaya: its depend on prakriti of individual...cold is not comfortable for kapha prakriti...
VIRUDDHA AHARA(unwholesome diet) :
Viruddha ahara may give rise to many chemical reactions in our body, which can't be visualized. It may be affecting the cellular body built and its chemical constituents..
Management of allergy in ayurveda:
Prakruta kapha(physiological kapha) is considered as Bala(immunity), while vikruta kapha (pathological kapha) is considered as mala(cause of disease)- cha.su.17...while ojas is also play important role in built of immunity. This ojas is type of kapha(cha.sha.7) which manifest during embryological life and its responsible for innate immunity(sahaj bala)..so in ayurveda , to develop sahaj bala(innate immunity) one should focus on healthy conception.
To develop yuktikruta bala (acquired immunity) , one should focus on normal development of children. As childhood is stage of kapha, one should focus increase prakruta kapha by various regimens like exercise ,consuming. Chyavanprasha (बालानां च अंगवधँनानां-    promote normal development of child),suvarna prasha etc.. …..Still one suffer from allergy in adulthood, various kamya rasayana should be used as rasayana drugs are immuno modulator.
Hay fever-  Nasya, pippali
respiratory allergy- Chyavana prasha, Shirisha, triphala, vasa, bhallataka, Vacha, honey
allergy related to eye triphala
food allergy- vidanga, shunthi, pippali,kutaja.
skin allergy- bhring raja, tuvaraka, yastimadhu,Grapes,  daily abhyanaga...
- Dr.Pankaj (assistant professor)
Colombia Dr. Sandra Milena Galvis: excellent explanation . thanks…A modern explanation of the concept is syndrome permeability of the intestinal mucosa
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Day by day various types of immunization are increased..in Ayurveda ,research should be done on effects of immunization on immunity(specially allergy).. 1⃣In first group ,only ayurvedic immuno modulator such as chyavana prasha, suvarnaprasha, Brahma rasayana should be given to children……2⃣ in second group only various  modern immunization should be given…….3 in third group, both ayurveda and modern immunization should be given……Then effects on immunity(allergy related problems in childhood/ adulthood) in all three group should be checked……..Allergens are some one like poison in characteristic of ashukari.. There are some drugs which are vyavayi and have good effects of anti allergen. Maricha (piper nigrum)and vacha (calamus)are such type of drugs having very good effects against food and respiratory allergy...Shirish(albizzia lebbeck) is considered as Vishaghna dravya(anti poison) which is also very good in allergic respiratory problems..
Vd. Hardik J. Patel- MD: Haridrakhand avaleh in skin allergy and respiratory allergy
Colombia Dr. Sandra Milena Galvis: In Colombia we do not have permission to Ayurvedic medicines. All we handle it with food and some therapies. What do you think of intolencia gluten that is different from celiac disease? And his relationship with certain allergies
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: The first characteristic of ama is Pichchhilata(sticky ness). Gluten is also derived from glu means stickyness. So indigestion of gluten leads production of ama which is sticky. Trikatu will be drug of choice in gluten sensitivity…….If there is Ayurveda medicine is not allowed,u can use in food too.
In India people , gluten is main contain in diet..but along with gluten containing articles, we use many spicy herbs in daily diet which are antagonist to gluten...
Dr. Ravindra Upadhyay: Use of. Roasted. Cuminseeds i e Jeera useful in. G I problems, it helps to overcome stickiness of the stool. removal of. Ama. should be consumed in. powder form.
Dr. Pulastya Vora: Continuing discussion on allergy; it is said that one man's medicine may be another's poison. For e.g. one can digest raw milk; one after boiling while another after adding dry ginger or pippalimool. So do not compare yourself with others. It is said that each and every patient is a separate textbook of medicine. So consider that how unique your body constituent is! Read your body as textbook of medicine or develop a separate area in brain as AID- Allergy Investigation Department and aid your body to find out what pitches you as allergen. As soon as you get a clue discuss with your doctor.
Vd. Pulkit D. Patel: in ayurveda there are some contents …..shitapitta (urticaria)….udarda(giant urticaria)……kotha(roseola)……have same lakshana as like allergy…..in ayurveda aama is responsible for this deases……. dhatvagnimandhya is responsible for aama formation .have purvaroopa like:-pipasa, aruchi, dehasada, anga gaurava, rakta lochanta,  roopa like: varti dansata sansthana, shotha, kandu, chardi, vidah, jwara
Vd Pranjlin Kavar: My daughter was having a severe allergic reaction to milk and all types of milk products by birth. She get cure by powder of dry date and air roots of ficus religiosa ( pipado in Gujarati).
 Germany Rabia: A 4 months old daughter of friend of mine has very bad rashes on stomach, face, lower abdominal. It should be allergic??What it can be.. Mother is not eating pitta inducing food anymore
Usa Vaduvur S. Narayan: Allergies to pigeons is well documented in allopathic medical literature.  Treatment is not very effective
 Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Most common genetic defect is lactase deficiency..so many people living with lactase deficiency, mill is not suitable for them, on consuming milk they get abdominal cramps, bloating, and diarrhoea, in ayurveda we called it Mrudu Koshtha...its known as milk allergy (actually its genetic defect)in lay man term... In this case boiling milk should be given with ginger...People living with pigeons should take nasya daily..and consume Chyavanprasha to boost immunity
Dr. Kumar S. K. : In any type of allergy related to poisonous or non poisonous immediate remedy is 1betel leaf+1tsf of pepper+1tsf of crystal salt, crush all these and give orally 1 pinch every 10 min..we have tried in many animal species and pts.


Saturday, March 5, 2016

Uses of Ginger (aardrak and sunthi) according to #ayurveda

Views shared by several ayurveda professionals and non-ayurveda people in discussion group:
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Vd. Ram Shukla: Sunthi is vishvabhesaj not ginger…..Properties of ginger and sunthi are more than opposite to each other
Dr Dipak Shirude: Please shed some more light on these opposite properties of ginger and shunthi ... I was aware  only about opposite properties of takra and dadhi
Vd. Ram Shukla: Sunthi is madhur vipak, grahi…..Whereas ginger is katu vipak and sar guna…….Sunthi can be given in diarrhoea, but ginger may may increase diarrhoea due to its sar property……..The common thing is both are agni dipak
Bhuj Dr Jigar Gor: It's been said that while making tea one should add shunthi and not ginger... I guess due to their properties only. If request senior Vaidya to throw light on it
Dr Dipak Shirude: What can be stated about there action on doshas ?
Vd. Ram Shukla: Sunthi is mainly ruchi kar and indicated in amavata and likewise condition…. Having said this I prefer tea with ginger because of its taste.
Dr Dipak Shirude: I expect exact action of them regarding 3doshas ..Please share ..It is must to fix the matter .. If they are opposite, is one vaatshamak and another vaatvardhak ?
Vd. Ram Shukla: No. Not opposite in all aspects
Dr. Chirag Dobariya: Sunthi is snigdha and ginger is ruksha properties -Bhavprakash
Germany Helga Fuchs: .... Ohhhh, please help. Here we have the knowlege that Shunti is fresh Ginger. Ginger is curna, powder oft dry Shunti. Is this the right understanding? Thank you
Shri Minoo parabia: No Helga. Fresh tubers taken out of soil and sold before drying them are Aadu, Adrakh (ardrak in Sanskrit)…After drying it is named as Sunth or Sunthi. In English both are ginger…..Dried ginger could be powdered easily. ….In india almost all our curries and Pulses contain fresh ginger we call Aadu.  In curries it tastes great.
Germany Helga Fuchs: Good that I do not work only due names. Dry or fresh. I always remember that powder is rukhsa. Thank you to clear out this wrong understanding oft many years in one second. I am happy
Dr. Chirag Dobariya: Sunthi(Dry ginger) is laghu,snigdha and Ginger is guru,ruksha properties. sunthi is pachak and ginger is dipan karma. Sunthi is grahi and vibandhnut both karma done because of it's Prabhav(प्रभाव).
Dr. Arun Tiwari: विबन्धनुत
Dr. Hardikchandra Kalal: Grahi mean well consist not more liquid or hardll…Vibandhnut mean remove the constipation ll…..
Dr Dipak Shirude: Grahi = improves absorption in large intestine
Sandipbhai Aum Agri : Sunthi(dry ginger) is prepared from fresh ginger dipped in sulphur + sundries. Dipping is for fast drying ……So always used fresh ginger dried slices . Without sulphur  and convert into powder
Canada Nitin Shah: I believe Sunthi( dry ginger) should be more tikshna as it don't have water element. Water element reduces tikshanata(sharpness) where as adrak (fresh ginger) should be less tikshana due to high amount of water elements. That's why I believe Sunthi should be used exclusively for high Kapha conditions only where adrak juice (fresh ginger) can be used in moderation in excess vata and pitta condition.
Dr Dipak Shirude: This looks logical but above stated qualities go some other way !
Canada Nitin Shah: That's what I am wondering. And that's why we need Tadvidya sambhasha……. We need rationality
Germany Helga Fuchs: Sorry, up I mean powder is tiksha. More sharp as fresh ginger………Yes Nitin Shah, this was in my mind.
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: GINGER……………Ginger (Zingiber officinale) is a member of the Zingiberaceae family and is consumed widely not only as a spice but also as a medicinal agent (see also Chapter 7 on ginger). Other members of the family include turmeric and cardamom. Ginger’s cultivation appears to have begun in South Asia and has now spread to various parts of the world. It is sometimes called “root ginger” to distinguish it from other products that share the name. The principal constituents of ginger include [6]-gingerol, [6]-paradol, [6]-shogaol (dehydration gingerols), and zingerone. Several studies have investigated ginger’s antioxidant properties (Chrubasik, Pittler, and Roufogalis 2005). Gingerol has also been shown to decrease intracellular ROS formation in human keratinocyte cells (Kim et al. 2007), inhibit angiogenesis in human ECs, and limit nitrogen oxide synthase expression and epidermal growth factor-induced cell transformation and AP-1 transcriptional complexes in JB6 cells (Bode et al. 2001; Ippoushi et al. 2003; Davies et al. 2005; Kim et al. 2005).
Feeding NIN/Wistar rats a diet containing up to 0.5-5% ginger for 1 month significantly increased (p < .05) several liver antioxidant enzymes, including superoxide dismutase (76–141%), catalase (37–94%), and GPx (11–30%; Kota, Krishna, and Polasa 2008). Lipid and protein oxidation was inhibited in rats consuming ginger, as evidenced by significant decreases (p < .05) in liver and kidney levels of MDA (35-59% and 27-59%, respectively) and carbonyl levels (23-36%), compared to controls (Kota, Krishna, and Polasa 2008). Ippoushi et al. (2007) found that AIN-76 basal diets with 2% ginger decreased TBARS by 29% (p < .05) and suppressed 8-hydroxy-2′-deoxyguanosine (8-OHdG, a product of oxidative DNA damage) levels in Wistar rats. TBARS was also significantly decreased (p < .001) in Wistar rats fed with diets supplemented with 1% ginger following exposure to lindane, a pesticide that is a global pollutant, (Ahmed et al. 2008).
Various animal models have been used to examine the role of ginger in cancer prevention. For example, Ihlaseh et al. (2006) exposed male Wistar rats to N-butyl-N-(4-hydroxybutyl)-nitrosamine (BNN) and uracil salt to induce tumors resembling human low-grade papillary urothelial neoplasia. Rats fed with a basal diet supplemented with 1% ginger extract for 26 weeks had significantly fewer urothelial lesions compared to the controls or those fed with the diet with 0.5% ginger (p = .013; Ihlaseh et al. 2006). However, ginger does not appear effective in all cases, as evidenced by the lack of protection against proliferative lesions in the bladders of Swiss mice fed with a 1% or 2% extract and exposed to BNN/N-methyl-N-nitrosourea (Bidinotto et al. 2006).
Induction of phase I and II activities may partially account for ginger’s anticarcinogenic actions. Banerjee et al. (1994)found that providing 10-μL ginger oil daily for 2 weeks to Swiss mice increased aryl hydrocarbon hydroxylase activity about 25% (p < .05) and increased GST by 60% (p < .01). No significant increase in GST induction was observed in Swiss mice fed with 160 mg ginger/gram diet (Aruna and Sivaramakrishnan 1990).
Inflammation is a significant risk factor for cancer, including prostate cancer. Mitogen-activated protein kinase phosphatase-5 (MKP5) is implicated as a proinflammatory inhibitor in innate and adaptive immune response in vivo (Zhang et al. 2004). Providing [6]-gingerol upregulated MKP5 expression in normal prostate epithelial cells treated with 50 μM gingerol; likewise, it upregulated MKP5 expression in human prostate cancer cell lines (DU145, PC-3, LNCaP and LAPC-4; Nonn, Duong, and Peehl 2007). Ginger extracts, more so than their individual components, have been shown to inhibit lipopolysaccharide-induced prostaglandin E2 (PGE2) production to an extent similar to that of indomethacin, a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug. Subfractions of ginger extract decreased LPS-induced COX-2 mRNA expression levels, although apparently not through the nuclear factor κB (NF-κβ) or activating protein 1 (AP-1) transcription factor pathways, because the ginger extracts did not inhibit TNF-α production (Lantz et al. 2007). [6]-paradol, another active compound in ginger, is reported to induce apoptosis in human promyelocytic leukemia cells, JB6 cells, an oral squamous carcinoma cell line, and Jurkat human T-cell leukemia cells in a dosedependent manner (Huang, Ma, and Dong 1996; Lee and Surh 1998; Keum et al. 2002; Miyoshi et al. 2003). It is unclear whether [6]-paradol has molecular targets similar to [6]-gingerol.
Ginger also appears to have antitumorigenic properties. Several cell lines have been examined for their sensitivity to ginger. For example, alcoholic extracts of ginger inhibited tumor cell growth for Dalton’s lymphocytic ascites tumor cells and human lymphocytes at concentrations of 0.2-1 mg/mL in vitro (Unnikrishnan and Kuttan 1988). In a study of cytotoxic activities of several compounds in ginger against four tumor cell lines (A549, human lung cancer; SK-OV-3, human ovarian cancer; SK-MEL-2, human skin cancer; and HCT-15, human colon cancer), [6]-shogaol was the most potent (ED50: 1.05–1.76 μg/mL), and [4]-, [6]-, [8]-, and [10]-gingerol displayed moderate cytotoxicity (ED50: 4.92-30.05; Kim et al. 2008). Adding [6]-gingerol (25 μM) has been reported to inhibit proliferation in rat ascites hepatoma cells AH109A and increase apoptosis at higher concentrations (50 μM; Yagihashi, Miura, and Yagasaki 2008). Likewise, adding [6]-shogoal (60 μM) to COLO295 cells has been reported to increase the expression of GADD153, a gene that promotes apoptosis (Chen et al. 2007). [6]-shogaol (>50 μM) also provokes DNA damage and apoptosis through an oxidative stressmediated caspase-dependent pathway (Chen et al. 2007). Similarly, incubation of HEp-2 cells with ginger (250 μg/mL, 500 μg/mL, or 1000 μg/mL) resulted in a dose-dependent decrease in nitrite generation, increased production of superoxide, and decreased GSH levels compared to untreated cells, indicating ginger-induced apoptosis through the generation of ROS (Chen et al. 2007).
Ginger is also recognized for its potential usefulness to reduce nausea. To determine whether ginger had antiemetic effects in cisplatin-induced emesis, Manusirivithaya et al. (2004) conducted a randomized, double-blinded, crossover study in 48 gynecologic cancer patients. The addition of ginger (1 g/day) to a standard antiemetic regimen has no advantage in reducing nausea or vomiting in the acute phase of cisplatin-induced emesis. In the delayed phase, ginger and metoclopramide have no statistically significant difference in efficacy (Manusirivithaya et al. 2004). In another study, 1000 mg of ginger was compared to 20-mg intravenous (IV) metoclopramide, and to 4-mg IV ondansetron in controlling nausea in patients receiving cyclophosphamide chemotherapy. Ginger was determined to be as effective as metoclopramide, but neither was as effective as ondansetron (Sontakke, Thawani, and Naik 2003).
Overall, while the anticancer findings of ginger are intriguing and several processes may be associated with the observed responses, additional studies are needed to clarify the underlying mechanisms and to determine overall benefits to humans (Pan et al. 2008).
Anand Javeri: A doctor once told me that daily ginger intake improved appetite & digestion. And it should be taken with white rock salt for taste. One small piece of the size of a big marble can be taken for this. (fresh ginger). Ginger is also helpful in cough problem.
USA Dinesh Pandya: Very true. ....by improving Agni
Vd.Atul Ambadkar: Only Sunthi+ shatava(sauf) contented kashay--Used for Agni Deepan. In agnimandya…prakshep of Lavan Bhaskar churn/ hngwashtak churn….As pachan…. For sutika(delivery undergone woman)…..Shunthi+khand sharkara+ goghrut prepared gutika:-(Freshly prepared), To avoid post-partum  vat prakopa.
USA Parulben: I want to share some negative……Long time uses of sunthi or ginger can make your eye red, reduce memory…….As it increases acidity or imbalances alohhak pita…..And so does bodhak kapha….Alochak pitta…..Please avoid Google copy paste  and share practical knowledge to utilize this platform as tadvidambhasha. As everyone has excess to Google.
Shri Minoo parabia: I appreciate this. It is exceedingly important to learn about the limitations than to learn only about virtues.
Anand Javeri: Ginger relieves nausea also.
Vd. Milan Prajapati: Ginger is described as a aaharyogi substance in charak sutrasthan…….That means when digestion of aausadh is not possible due to excessive mandagni  and when we wants dipan karma in the patient……..We should implement ginger as a aahar to establish dipan karma in place of aausadh…..Such type of patients having seen………When patient was on chemotherapy treatment….And patient has complain of less intake, loss of appetite, nausea.
Germany Helga Fuchs: Ginger, Salt and lemon to increase agni, juice of ginger with honey for dry cough, very  usefull also in dry cough who stay for weeks and after pneumonia to  strenght the lungs. Nausea only little ginger or like point one, slice of ginger after intake ghee for PK. Totally agree with  for Pitta no ginger. It was said that ginger is OK for Pitta because it is not so sharp, about including sweet rasa, more slimy quality. But in regular taking, also as lukewarm, not hot gingerwater, no way for Pitta. Hot wather with ginger, gingertea, is only usefull as medicin in clear less dosis, not as regular habit to drink it all day, literwise. Ginger is food with quality of medicin like other spices or ghee, honey, milk.
Dilip Patel: Ginger specialties!.....10,000 times greater than the effect of chemotherapy ginger!......University of Georgia Research blessing for cancer patients .........Make liberal use of ginger kitchen fires. The daily intake of ginger if you have cancer. Cancer drug 'ability to fight more than ten hajaragani tekasola' adunam 6-sogaola called 'element of cancer.
Particularly the fact that ginger does not strike on cancer cells but not healthy cells. Ginger effect of chemotherapy is more than 10,000 times.
Turmeric is a very well known fact is very useful in the fight against cancer. Pitaraibhai like ginger, turmeric is also about the quality of the research recently. Ginger is also proved by researches that in some cancers than traditional medicines can treat cancer more effectively..
The United States, the Georgia State University, the research on rats found that ginger extract, given the size of the prostate tumor is reduced by 6 per cent. But you have to learn by experiment found that ginger extract would not only destroy cancer cells, its combustion is less. It also increases strength and disease resistance.
According to a report published in the American Journal of Health ginger in treating a 6-sogaola a much greater element of cancer gives better results than conventional chemotherapy. 6-sogaolani uniqueness of it is that the only strikes at the original cancer cells. Mother called Sales (mother cell) causes the cells of many types of cancer, including breast cancer. Mother cell splits gradually eliminating the second body which is produced by many cells.
All these cells are unbeatable, like immortal, proves hardly any work on the drug.
This is evidence that cancer cells growing in rebuilding itself. It is going to continue to grow. Such cells have developed resistance against conventional treatments such as chemotherapy. And is also likely due to being constantly increased by new nodes. When the body can be rid of cancer when the bulb of the cancer cells are destroyed.
According to the scientists say, is that adumannu a 6-sogaola new research has proven this element in the destruction of cancer stem cells.
This is a tremendous advantage to be called. Treatments such as chemotherapy, are needed to reach the cells of the body healthy and the loss accordingly.
Anti-cancer drugs such as the University of Georgia revealed that through this experiment that ginger tekasola but not as effective. Even when the ginger sogaola a 6-element proves to be more effective than the doses when given tekasolanam. Vaijnanikoe noted that the effect of 6-sogaolani tekasola than 10 hajaragani. It is clear that preventing arthae, tumor recurred by Ginger and the maintenance of healthy cells by her.
Cancer treatment still requires a lot of such research. Which has made us aware of how much was the wrong direction so far and we will be wasting our ketaketali manavajindagi elopathika treatment by such treatment.
Ginger is considered medicinal in the world. Sanskrit is called adarka. Green, who is maju body-refresh operation to clear out debris from the cell (ketabolijhama) and a cell full of ginger juice to keep the action fresh anabolijhama who bannekriya.
Before eating, drinking ginger juice is very good……1) mixture of ginger.  2) makes the dominant jatharagni. (It Dipen).  3) Breaking jhala of phlegm in the lungs.  4) It makes pure tongue and throat.  5) brings in the highest amount of urine.  6) is removed from the chest colds.  7) It cures inflammation of flatulence.  8) obesity (fat) cures.  9) breaks cuff - gas is the enemy.  10) silasa heals.  11) the benefit to the patient of asthma  12) heals heart disease.  13) does from its regular intake kensara  14) whereby pittanum.
Adumam udiyana oil - 3%, Pungency - 8%, Starch - 56%, Ginger is warm it is wrong.
 Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: If one have doubt of indigestion in morning ,consume haritaki and ginger powder.. Ginger should not be given in  pitta prakriti and in summer (hot climate)
Lvg Shriram Gandhi: Desi sunth of Gujarat is only sun-dried.
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Mix rock salt and ginger juice..then make small pieces of Indian goose berry...and soak these pieces in mixture of ginger juice and salt for 10-12 hour then dry up these pieces...and use it as appetiser..Very tasty and good appetiser
Dr. Amal JP: Ardraka/Sundi

1)Agnimandhya & vayusathmbha - equal quantity of Ardraka swarasa + Nimbu swarasa with sindhava lavana…..2) aruchi & amlodghara - equal quantity of jeeraka choornam + maricha choornam in Ardraka swarasa thrice day….3) kasa -Ardraka swarasa + honey…..4) kasa, swasa, udharasoola - Sundi kashayam + guda…5) kanda roga & arshas - choornam prepared out of 5 part of Sundi + 4 part of pippali + 2 part of nagakesara + 1 part of eala taken with equal quantity of sugar….6) vata roga & sandhi shopha - kashayam prepared out of equal quantity of Sundi and eranda mula taken with honey….7) hridroga - Sundi kashayam taken with hingu and sawvarjala lavana
Dr. Yogesh Gorakhnath Patil: Ginger is widely used in the treatment of many diseases due to its powerful healing properties. Recently, it has been proved that ginger can even cure cancer. It is commonly known that turmeric is very efficient in destroying cancer cells. However, the latest research has found that ginger is almost equally effective. Furthermore, ginger is even more powerful in killing cancer cells than certain cytostatic drugs.
 Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Dry ginger is given women for 5-6 months after delivery of baby... Dry ginger balances all dosha and establish normal function of dhatu which are disturbed during pregnancy.. Ginger is also good galactogouge. There is famous saying in Gujarati language, if mother eat ginger after delivery, her baby becomes very strong..(किसकि मा ने सवासेर सुठ खायी है)...this saying denotes importance of sunthi in development of normal baby
IPR Chhayaben: We prepare 'pak'  using suth n ghee n jaggary and eat in the morning to protect against cold in winter..
Dr Sandeep Madaan: My practical experience with shunthi is in rheumatoid arthritis, dyspepsia, as galactogogue and motion sickness. It's a powerful herb used in small doses
Vd. Prerak Shah : Nabhipuran with fresh ginger juice can stop diarrhoea or loose motion in 15-20 min.....very useful in kids.
Dr. Sheetal Sumra:  Sunthi (dry ginger), Jerra (cumin seed), dry mint,  dry coriander..  Make a mixture of all this,  have 1 teaspoon of this mixture after food with lukewarm water it's helps to digest for food 🙂
Dr. Mahavir Patil: How fresh ginger juice is effective in loose motions? and why more useful in kids?
USA Dr. Dinesh Pandya: because of 'prabhava'...
Dr. Bharat Sharma : In womb life there can be direct neurological connection with intestine...and it can continue till childhood so there may remain a place for PRABHAV!!
Vd. Ajay Pithiya: Nabhipuran is reference from the book named chakradatta..  It contains treatment mainly
Dr. Kamlesh: We just tried ginger nabhipuran in one IBS swasthya sadhak. Waiting for results😀

Vd. Mahesh Akani: Ginger juice Nabhi puran very effective work in also nausea, vomiting in Pregnancy

Friday, March 4, 2016

How to control high level of Uric Acid? #ayurvdic approach

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Vd. Ritaben Nadiad: Avoid pulses in diet. Giloy is very useful drugs .like sansmani vati, amrutadi gugal and keshor gugal
Dr. Jinal Thakkar: Can v look at uric acid as kled in rakta???  And use drugs that strengthen ranjak pitta and also yakrit and also use rakta prasadak meds
Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: My little experience with punarnava is very encouraging .
Shri Minoo parabia: Right. Punarnava in combination with mitho suranjan, gokshur, giloy works well.  Rasayan churna daily is good.  
Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: Chandrprabhavati
Dr Dipak Shirude: What logic is behind use of chandraprabha vati in high levels of uric acid ? Please explain.
Shri Minoo parabia: To boost up kidney threshold. Uric acid has to be thrown out.
Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: i have cured few patients of high uric acid ...i found jaluka is best option to remove from toes.
Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: I also agree with.. I have only single sitting cured result for vaatrakt.. but when v talk about Uric acid than must remember that there must APACHAY  there . Uric acid is end product of Protein but if protein digests properly,then chances of uric acid growth is less. Protein digestion becomes improper,than MAL PRODUCT of Protein becomes higher than normal so concentrate on protein digestion proper..Kidney has function to out mal of body bcz it's part of body who remove MAL from body.. . If mal becomes much,than kidney have load to out UA.
Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: I had uric acid 3pills chandrprabhavati cured it,self experience
Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: Sorry,only concept of diuretics is not a proper concept.. I think.. Chandraprabhavati has containing diuretic,pachan. But I just want to ask for another concept for using Chandraprabhavati…..Gokhur, musta, trikatu, triphala in combination as a dicoction has also a great result. Keep patient on langhan if needed but must b given Protein diet if reason is indigestion of Protein induced UA
Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: Ya one has to omit high protein, high fat & gaseous foods frm diet
 Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: Mamsa,and meda kshaya is also thinkable subjects in case of UA+…..If mansh dhatu digestion increases,then protein digestion also increase indirectly…… Over exercise must b stooped.. bcz generally sudden someone starts to exercise and if he keeps loaded exercise,than normally UA+ happens cz protein digestion happens more but this is only for sometime .. After sometime,everything will b normal if that person does normal level exe
Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: Unsaturated fat  & unsaturated proteins to be avoided…..Exercise & walking, contrary helpful for accelerating body metabolism, digestion
Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: Hyper exercise is always harmful if level of UA+.. bcz if u do hyper exercise than UA level becomes more whether u take protein from mouth or not..
Vd. Ritaben Nadiad: I have seen 3 cases .gym trainer has high uric acid becoz they want to biuld up their muscles so they takes protin powder regular…. Becoz of high intake of protin powder
Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: Agree but it's high protein not due to mere exercise,besides they Tk steroids which uploads kidney
Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: If u r taking more protein,than obviously UA+ happens.. …..But if u r not taking Protein for long time,than body deside to out protein from muscles where already accumulated protein is available…….So indirectly protien mismetabolism happenes.. in this situation,S.UA+ happens.. but UA level in urin will b normal…… Bcz mamsa,meda kshay cause damage kidney function indirectly. So over exercise make UA+ in serum……If u do over exercise,then u have muscle pain !! Rt or wrong? If right than answer me y this pain happens??
Dr. Satyendra Sharma: I do agree that protein indigestion is directly proportional to uric acid levels. Protein breaks into amino acid and undigested amino acid converts into uric acid.Removal. of uric acid by medicine only is not a solution. Vit B rich diet helps in proper digestion of amino acid.we cannot stop Protein intake as it has a lot of works in our body .1.increase intake of Vit B complex rich diet.2.Give strength to liver by taking kutki  .punarva and Giloa 3.Take optimal water.4.Do adequate exercise. Treat the cause not the pain
Dr. Dipali Poshtiwala: Sugar control diet n low protein diet..... Low glycemic diet helps
Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: high uric acid can be present with gout /renal stone/obesity acc. to that treatment….  amrutadi guggulu, manjishthdi kwath, chandraprabha, rasayan churna,  etc
Vd. Devangi Jogal Surat: Well i got excellent results by using Guduchi satva,manjistadi quath, tulsi cap.and Rakta pachak tab....
Dr Dipak Shirude: Anyone can share more specific i.e. vyadhi-pratyanik medicine for the situation of high uric acid.  Please try to put Ayurved logical plan behind that choice of particular medicine…….High protein, sugar etc. doesn't fulfill the genuine Ayurved way of thinking. One must put doshik concepts and samprapti vichaar in development as well as breakup of disease.
Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: pt with HTN on diuretics with high uric acid need changing in medicine for HTN
Satyen: Sodium bicarbonate  converts acids to alkline. Do u recommend daily use of it?
Shri Minoo parabia: Not alkaline but to salt and water……Other wise alkaline milieu is good for the body……In severe acidosis intravenous administration is recommended.
Vd. Tapan: Rasa Mala vibhajan takes place in Purishdharakala. If this is impaired than the Mala stays in Rasa in the form of auric acid or urea while Rasa stays in Mala in the form of Albuminuria…….Hanse Rasamala vivek is to be restored otherwise guduchi as vyadhipratyanic will do good but the basic Samprapti bhang will not take place….This Vivek is well restored by Agnitundi like Vishtinduk Pradhan yogas along with Guduchi guggulu Rasabal or Raktabal etc.
Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: Raktpachak is also working in Uric acid +.. After all,uric acid is Mal that is elevated in blood.  So.. but Samprapti vigatan not happens in using Raktpachak .
Dr. Kamlesh: Mud bath , doohi ras , alkaline diet, langhan
Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: Second thought also we can think that amashay sneho vruko pushyati.. If acid secretion is more from liver and retained at stomach so altimetry kidney  affects.. Yavkshar can act in UA+??
Acid secretion happens in stomach with the help of NaCl.salt.  Liver secretions Bile is alkaline. Dushit pitta is acidic. Niram pitta is alkaline.
Surat Vd Mukul Patel: Bhumi  amalki seems to reduce uric acid.  Have personally  seen the results.  Also,  Some Vaidya in South specially  Kerala  use kokilaksha  to control  uric acid.
Vd. Hardik bhatt: Kakmachi swaras is also very useful for uric acid disorder
Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: Colchicine (chopchini) a Chinese herb is used to neutralize acid in gout, a pill name Goutnill contains colchicine in it though registered in allopathic medicine, besides sodakhar or sodium bicarbonate uploads kidney if taken for long,…Even NaCl is in long run corrosive to bone density
Dr. Prerak Shah: What about general diet guideline in UA? Why we follow the protein free diet as modern medicine? Any Ayurveda excuse?
Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: Guduchi contains Beta - sitosterol,  delta- sitosterol,  ecdysterone(stem part)makisterone A and giloinsterol which are natural steroids . It is helpful reducing swelling and a pain reliever. Well, in modern context doctors give prednisone. Also guduchi contains lactones while research are going on the connection between lactones can improve pain or not.
Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: Sugar or sweet also to b avoided
Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: Another thing, it has anti oxidants, and metabolism improves with anti oxidants…… Also stress triggers gouty pain and swelling,  so guduchi also has been showed good results in anti stress activity…..The water extract of the stem of neem giloy significantly inhibited acute inflammatory response evoked by carrageenin in a dose of 50mg/100 g given orally
Shri Minoo parabia: Excessive alkali again promote shoth! Balance is the key healer has to apply. Guduchi is immunomodulator beyond doubt. Used almost as Panacea in Ayurveda as well as in ethnic methods. We are correlating now after all these mumbo jumbo research. How was it done in time immemorial!.... Chopchini I think is Smilax. Sarsaparilla.
Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: Xyloric in long run, is not side effects free!
Dr Dipak Shirude: Xyloric = Hepato-toxic
Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Pathya:jav,shali rice, ning,wheat,yellow gram, math, cow milk and ghee, Navneet…….Apathya:Jatu,isms,guru,abhisyandi,lavanrasyukt ahar,  udad, Kalathi, yavkhar, Viruddhahar,curd,redish, Til,exercise, heat, Divaswap…..Vasa is also useful in Raktpittaj vyadi. Vasadi Kwath,Kaishor gugglu,Other preapration which everyone has suggested. Burning sensation PATOLADI kwath gives good result. …..Lep Chikitsa: Manjistha, Daruharidra,Turmeric,Vacha,Yastimadhu,Raktachandan,Ela,Ushir,Kath make a paste with water and apply on effective part relief in pain and burning
Dr. Chirag Dobariya: One question? In high UA ,More patients are living without any complains and also view of Ayurveda patients are healthy that time high UA treatment require???     I think any time patients examination and diagnosis are done on Ayurveda base.Also I have not ignore existence of investigation reports but all time in patients examination our outlook is must be in base of Ayurveda.                                   A relationship may exist between Gout with high UA.    Abnormal concentrations of UA are not medical conditions but are associated with a variety of medical conditions. In present times patients taking more n more allopathic medicine, some medicine's also cause of high UA. High level of Alcohol consumption, More Fructose intake in diet,Starvation,Obesity are causes of high UA.
Germany Helga Fuchs: Above all named medicines: early sleep, means here, no work during night………..Avoid stress, and take time to eat regular and relaxed. Not to much, shure, and this in short time. Drinking during rating, short before or after disturb the needed heat for digestion…….Spezial by using the night to be busy, Pitta lost his sharpness and get to watery, sour, and by this it lost its capacity to do his needed work for digestion. Sour pitta is no help to agni and itself not easy to digest properly……During eating, not rating..
Vd. Chirag: high UA levels can occur in any medical condition. Esp. In cardiac conditions where patients r on many allo drugs. High UA is seen post muscle damage,  post-angioplasty cerebral hyperfusion syndrom ( brain cells flooding by blood where blood circulation was impaired b4 due to blocks) in elderly .
Vd. Tushar trivadi Bhavnagar: Gokshur dhanyak ghrit and punarnastak kwath gives very good result in uric acid
Vd. Bhavesh Thakkar: Kokilaksh kashay, Kaishor gugal, Mrudu virechan for UA
Bhavnagar Arun Vaghela: Laghumanjistadi kwath....Guduchi satva.... Mara anubhav Ma.
Dr. Hardikchandra Kalal: We can rule out of urice acid as  (1)Serum uric acid  (2) Urine uric acid …………..When increase serum uric acid (acidic media in bloodstream as per Ayurved we can understand Drava evam ushna gunas of Sam pitta increase in rakta dhatu. It is indicate pitta dosh  evam rakta dhatu doshdusmya samurchchana )…………Chikitsa siddhant :- Pachan, shita  evam mutral  aushadh " Pachan for niram pitta(ushir)  Sita for balance the ushna guna (Amlaki + draksha+ sarkara)  Mutral for excretion of Drava gun (Dhanyak ) This above treatment for increase level of serum uric acid not for gout.
When increase urine uric acid level, And pt's has signs and symptoms of kidney stone so possible uric acid stone ……..Practically difficult to rule out urine uric acid  because it seems collection of 24 hours 's urine so at that time  we can rule out only urine routine and micro. And urine is acidic than we can use alkali (Kshariya) Ayurved drugs like yavkshar with mitral aushadh………..But be aware use of more pitta vardhak dravyas.
Dr. Pradip Mohan Sharma Jaipur: To normalize the blood uric acid, should we not follow the treatments of "VAT-rakta?  वातरक्त
Dr Dipak Shirude: This is very good question……Co relation of uric acid with vaat-rakta is acceptable all the time or what ? Nice subject for discussion.
Satyen: Uric acid is a chemical created when the body breaks down substances called purines(important building block of DNA- genetic material)....
Modern approach:-  Causes of high uric acid:- - renal insufficiency, - Diuretics – alcohol - genetic susceptibility - immune suppressing drugs - niacin(vita b3) – obesity - purine rich diet( beans, meat, mushroom...) - toxemia of pregnancy – hypothyroidism - chemotherapy related side effects  
The gout has been associated for centuaries with over indulgence in meats, seafood and alcohol ..the condition was, in fact considered a disease of the wealthiest people(Adhya rogi in ayurveda)- those who could afford such eating habits.. Gout manifest when crystals to form and accumulate around joint..
Management:- Decrease UA is not cure,it may lower the risk of recurring painful gout attacks. Colchicine:- prevents inflammation, no effect on UA  production ..useful in acute gout.. Allopurinol:- prevents formation of UA..
Weight loss, Highcarb meal- eat more fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. Increase water intake Daily protein consumption should be 113-170 gm/ day. Research suggests that high purine vegetable don't increase risk of gout..spinach, peas,asparagus, cauliflower, mushrooms, are useful. U can eat beans, lentils ,mungo bean which are moderately high in purine s but are also good sources of protein..
Ayurveda approach:-  In Ayurveda gout(high UA) is considered as Vata rakta..it's disease of rich people(adhya), according to ayurveda…….Vitiation of vata and rakta occur separately……Uric acid is mala, and agni play important role in creating mala,if agni is low than mala will produced more..after production of mala, apana vayu excreate mala (stool and urine)... excretion and  reabsorption of uric acid at tubular level is hampered which is function of apana vata....
Management :- If only uric acid is increased without symptoms--  Rasayana dravyas like Guduchi with castor oil. Haritaki with jaggery. Pippali with jaggery. Shilajeet, kaishor gugglu, punarnva/ rasayana churna.. During acute attract of gout:- Leech therapy is very good. Decoction of bark of  Sacred fig (ficus religiosa) and honey is also good in all type of gout. For high level of UA with gouty arthritis , basti therapy(enema) is  considered as unparalleled treatment..
Vd. Tapan: For fast relief of pain of Acute Gout, Agnikarma followed by 150 grams of Ginger crushed and swollowed  relieves pain in minutes, Manage acidity of stomach later on
Dr Dipak Shirude: 150 gms ? Can we adjust something less as per size of the patient ?
Shri Minoo parabia: Jaggery permitted to take along?
Vd. Tapan: No straight givan relieves the pain sharply…..But acidity is managed by Swarjika
Vd. Nidhi Awasthy: Shunthi , Dhaniya, Giloy, Mix Equal amount , To prepare decoction , Add 1 stp of mixture in 2 cups of water boil until remain 1/2 cup stare n drink twice daily , Tried in many patients it's effective
Dr. Amal JP: Nimbamruthasavam+ amrutharishtam+ saribadyasavam+ gokshuradi guggulu
Dr. Dipa Mehta: For uric acid guduchi is the best medicine. In any form it will help
Dr. Ravindra Upadhyay: Amrutadi. Guggul,Guduchyadi Kwatha, Guduchi. ghan tab
Argentina Dr. Fany Rosman: Please let me know if you manage gout arthrits that  I think is raktavata, with the same Ahara guidelines as in AMAVATA (rheumatoid arthritis) ?
Vd. Vishal Patel: Raktapachak-Patol,Musta,Sariva,Patha,Kutaki is also useful in uric acid.
Dr. Amal JP: Pathya- banana is good. Because it contains potassium ion potassium ion will liqufies urate crystals and expell it through urine. Pinnapple also contains potassium ion so it is also good
Vd. Hardik bhatt: Guduchi , Gokshur , punarnava are good for uric acid
Dr. Ravindra Upadhyay: Kaishor Guggu with. Dashamool kwatha, or. Guduchyadi kwatha should be given
Dr Jaydeep: Simple but effective remedy for high uric acid is sarjika kshar- soda bi carb. Though not for treating root pathology, its effective for rapid relief in symptoms and making uric acid level down. ……So it can b used along with  other classical line of treatments when disease is active ……..Being base in nature it neutralise the acidic property of uric acid and hence effective these way.
Dr. Prerak Shah: How to use sodium bicarbonate? Dose and method?
Dr Jaydeep: 125 mg 2 times a day can b given with glass of water……. One of my friends also makes tablets of single -  soda bi carb ……I tried it in many pts and good results are there ..
Dr. Lokesh Mehta: I think colchicine is suranjan and not chopchini. Suranjan is very effective in controlling high uric acid.
Colombia Enrique Jorge Galindo Bogota: Here in western is used colchisina and Alopurinol 100 mg tablet for UA and sodic diclofenaco or voltaren for pain in gout
Shri Minoo parabia: Yes. Right. Surinjan Colchicum autumnale Or Xyloric.
 Vd. Kunal Manek: I'm using guduchyadi kashay with kadupadoladi kashay... Along with kaishor gugul and amritadi gugul... Nicely effective in chronic and acute both stages……food restriction is must
Banu: Diet for high uric acid is Stress. One can't treat lifestyle diseases without addressing stress. I am trained in Allopathic medicine but have no real treatment ot cure for addressing stress. I find a very high number of stressed people around the world. Yoga and Pranayama shall help.Medicines alone are incomplete
Vd. Rupa Raval: correct, with yoga , pranayam, meditation, and correct mind set only help for lifestyle disease
USA - Dr. Narayan: Aahar, Vihar and Lastly Aushad should  be the process. We are not following that principle. If a patient is not ready to follow the basic principles of Ayurveda  they should stay with Allopathic medical model   I am trained in allopathic medicine but it also has limitations. Let us all work together
Dr Sandeep Madaan: In my experience guduchi extract and kokilaksh kshar act fast and effectively. Only Some refractive cases don't respond
Dr. Pratibha Bhavsar: I have seen good results with amrutadi gugul and guksuradi guggul
Vd. Vd Daxa Patel: A patient age 75yrs. dt.21june 15  ua- 8.1 , RA factor 260.21+ve  after 2month  dt 21st Aug…… UA 7.0 , RA factor 117   I gave him Rssnasaptsk+gokhru kadha , arogyavardhini vati, shansamni vati, sinhanad gugglu and cap. Rhumarx (con .surajan) 15days alternative
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Uric acid is a chemical created when the body breaks down substances called purines(important building block of DNA- genetic material)....In Ayurveda gout(high UA) is considered as Vata rakta..it's disease of rich people (adhya),  according to ayurveda…….Vitiation of vata and rakta occur separately…..Uric acid is mala, and agni play important role in creating mala,if agni is low than mala will produced more..after production of mala, apana vayu excreate mala (stool and urine)... excretion and  reabsorption of uric acid at tubular level is hampered which is function of apana vata....
Management :- If only uric acid is increased without symptoms--  Rasayana dravyas like Guduchi with castor oil……Haritaki with jaggery…..Pippali with jaggery…..Shilajeet, kaishor gugglu, punarnva/ rasayana churna…………..During acute attract of gout:- Leech therapy is very good…..Decoction of bark of Sacred fig (ficus religiosa) and honey is also good in all type of gout………….For high level of UA with gouty arthritis , basti therapy(enema) is  considered as unparalleled treatment..

Dr. Sheetal Sumra: Milk boiled with dashmool poured warm, over the affected joints give quick relief from pain

Tuesday, March 1, 2016

Snoring...causes and its management with #Ayurveda

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Dr Bhagyashri Panchal: I have learned that pouring 2-3 drops of gogrita at night..helps in snoring.....Snoring is due to vata prakopa...ghee is very effective in vata dosha prakopa
Dr. Dipali Poshtiwala: Cow's ghee pouring, massage of jyotishmati oil on head before sleep, castor oil massage in foot also helps.... Pranayam helps.....If it's chronic then use cinnamon powder as pouring as tikashna nasay process
Dr. Devesh Kumar: Reduction in  body weight also help in this condition.  Bhramari pranayam n bhrastrika also helps
Dr. Mahavir Patil: what is physiology/pathology of snoring .. according to ayurveda?
Shri Minoo parabia: Allergic rhinitis-pratishyay, nasal polyps-nasharsh, asthma, are possible causes. Nasya chikitsa helps
 Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: yes nasya helps in snoring
Vd. Manhar Prajapati: But not surity
Dr. Arvind panchal: Research should be done about nasya in snoring....👍
Vd. Ritaben Nadiad: Allergic rhinitis-pratishyay, nasal polyps-nasharsh, asthma, are possible causes…….Nasya chikitsa helps….I want to get knowledge about this topic
Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: There are several factors which facilitate snoring.
1.The normal aging process leads to the relaxation of the throat muscles, thus resulting in snoring.
2.Anatomical abnormalities of the nose and throat, such as enlarged tonsils or adenoids, nasal polyps, or deviated nasal septum cause exaggerated narrowing of the throat during sleep and thus lead to snoring.
3.Functional abnormalities (e.g. inflammation of the nose and/or throat as may occur during respiratory infection or during allergy season) will result in snoring.
4.Sleep position, such as sleeping on your back, may lead to snoring in some people. 
5.Obstructive sleep apnea
Dr. J. T. Contractor : Mostly big belly people male/female found snoring irrespective of sleeping position! Even though if any, tonsils,adenoids, infection, abnormally or big belly!whatever! While awake y isn't snoring! It's only in sleep or fast a sleep exact reason yet to b known
Dr. Dipali Poshtiwala: Hypothyroidism patients start snoring….. bz of disease
Prof. Siddharth Panchal L J Pharmacy: I think deep sleep mode initiate snoring.   However, not seen in all & in fact deep sleep is good for health
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Now a days Snoring and obstructive sleep apnoea is considered under Respiratory system…..Snoring is one symptom of sleep apnoea..
Causes of sleep apnoea (snoring) according to modern science..---1) narrow pathway in back of throat   2)obesity   3) lose of muscle tone of pharynx    4) swollen tonsils..  When u wake muscle keep pathway relatively wide open but when u sleep muscle become relax and allowing opening narrow. Air passing through narrow pathway cause vibration of soft palate and this cause snoring..
Symptoms--
1) snoring     2) morning headache    3) chronic day time sleep   4) fatigue   5) irritability   6) impaired concentration  ……….If sleep apnea is untreated it may cause Hypertension, heart disease, irregular heart beat, stroke, DM……..
Management according to modern science:-  1) Life style changes    2) Sleeping on Lt side/ rt side    3) Avoid smoking  4) Avoid substances that make u sleepy e.g. alcohol, sedatives    5) Loosing weight.
Ayurveda approach:  Charaka has described a disease named Adhijihva caused by Kapha...susruta has considered adhijihva under Kantha gata  Roga (throat disease)... So according to Ayurveda Snoring can be seen in persons dominant with Kapha and Vata prakriti...
Ayurveda Approach in management:-  In Kapha prakriti-   1) Do kavala and gandush with anti kapha  drugs e.g. alkali(soda bi carb- swarjika xar) and honey… 2) Give orally trikatu or pippali with honey… 3) Virechanik dhoompana and nasya
In Vata prakriti--- 1) Kavala and gandush with help of Sneha dravya e.g. various oil… 2) Orally give drugs that increase muscle tone like Ashwagandha with ghee...3) Snaihika dhoompana and navana nasya
Pranayama for Snoring:- 1) Ujjayi Pranayam-- tight your throat then take deep and long inspiration as u can do then stop a while then close rt nostril and exhale air through Lt nostril... Do this pranayama 5-10 times a day….. 2) Kapala bhati…. 3) Anuloma viloma...
Dr. Hardikchandra Kalal:  Vastra pattabandhan at head with cover both ears at sleep time…..It is practically most effective and give us quick result……How is it work? Scientifically ….All sound comes from any any hole while air passing through from it holes. And here holes are sinus and respiratory track and air way as nasal to end  respiratory track. When we bind vastra pattabandhan so all sinus (holes) become in like normal position and air way(respiratory track) also work as normal. This is practically successful method. We can use also another Ayurveda treatment as Nasya, Medicines according to cause of snoring.
Dr. Arun Tiwari: I think this is a treatment of Bruxism.
Dr. Hardikchandra Kalal: 1st image not useful in snoring but 2nd image is useful. One thing more one we can vastra pattabandhan with simple cotton cloth and it is give us result…. Practically advise to the patient ankle joint belt as pattabandhan at head to chin by me.

Dr. Arun Tiwari: snoring is a bizarre disease. …But it does not hurt himself snoring gives trouble the others. Often the patient only takes advice, but does not take treatment….It affects mostly wife. …sometime divorce too often comes up. So many times when I becomes very tired Snoring begins in deep sleep. When I see in the morning my wife into another room . so I think best solution is worshipping wife and tune perfect.
Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Nasya,Pranayam  gives good result
Chile Dr. Susana Valdes: Snoring could be due sleep apnea, and this happen because tarpaka kapha is blocking prana vata. you have to treat excess of kapha….snoring could be also due sinus problems. You have to treat sinus problem: Cold, infection or allergies

Dr. Ravindra Upadhyay: fully agree with Susan, Snoring is with those who have recuurrent cold, sinusitis, obese, bad stomach ( bad digestion, weak digestive fire ), leading to accumulation of phlem. they need pachan, with trikatu, Dashamoolkatutraya, samasharkara, to br consumed with honey. Avoid sleeping in the afternoon., drinking chilled water,  a lot of water as some people follow hydrotherapy blindly, cold drinks, Icecreams, Kulfi. Nasyakarma will help along with rest of the treatment, but it should be the last as we need to do Pachan.

Management of Stomatitis (Mukhpaka)

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