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# Ayurveda
Vd. Hardik bhatt: vega nn dharyet .. vat, vit , mutr ,
kshav, trut , k kshudham, nidra, kas, sharam shwas, jrumbha, ashru,
chchardi, retsam. so never
suppress the natural urges of vata..
Vd. Dhruti Kagrana:
URGE
OF PASSING FLATUS (VATA VEGA)
Symptoms:
Controlling the urge to pass flatus can
lead to painful upward movement of air or vayu in abdomen, distension of the
abdomen, and even an abdominal tumor. It might cause physical weakness, loss of
vision, loss of appetite, and heart disease. It may also obstruct the passing
of flatus, stool, and urine.
Treatment:
The symptoms of Vata vega can be relieved by oleation, hot packs, hot bath, oil
massage, and use of boiled drinking water.
Croatia Branko Markovic: 1 liter of Hot water with ginger,
fennel and cumin helps. Lashunadi vati..
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Dr. Pritam Veer: Ajwayan , hingwashtak, bhaskar lawan,
Koshn jal muhurmuhu, Jirak, snouf, vidang sidhha jal
Gary Yuen: Called adhmana. Caraka Ci 13.16 seems
to note udara begins with excess of foods sweet oily heavy hot and acidic. Meat
cheese milk. Mainly as medicine though unsure how often and when. More as
flavoring, a tiny amount. Total meat fish etc. maybe less than 500 g per month.
Cheese and milk very very rarely. Maybe by season. Seems not needed.
Ayulink Ayurveda: I have a confusion. All measure we do
for flatulence control - are they effect on production of gas? Or do they stop
the release of gas? Or do they release more gas? Ingredients like ginger,
hingu, anwain etc do they work on any particular symptom?
In
general practice we use hingwashtak churna, Bhaskar lavan churna, chitrak vati,
sarjika kshar and many more without much thinking. As soon as patient
complaints of flatulence, we prescribe one or other of these. But there are
different conditions. Some patients complain for lot of flatulence, sometime
with flatulence with bad smell. Many a times bloated stomach and no flatulence
passing. Sometime flatulence with big sound - fart. By prescribing such ingredients
we get results, but which is good for which symptom exactly.
Gary Yuen: Im not sure if the ingredients
directly aid in that way. It's said gas maybe over a dozen times a day is
normal though the entire west has a bad diet. It happens with dal if one
doesn't eat it often. I think it may be gut bacteria, the microbiome, that
digests or is unable to digest foods. Ingredients that say help are all plants.
They may help change speed of digestion of heavy foods like godhuma or masa.
But i think once ones diet contains above some amount of meat fish milk ghee
cheese etc. then the gut changes and becomes less able to digest.
Such
as they say prebiotics and probiotics aid. Prebiotics i think are highest in
plants, with dal being the highest. Higher fiber foods too like yava. Refined
wheat maida, even a whole grain when ground like atta destroys all prebiotics.
Ayulink Ayurveda: Gary, I agree with you. But the point
is, most ingredients or medicines are for Anah, adhman, and atopa, three
conditions described in the Charaka. And then it is meant to releive the
blockage of gas and release the
abdominal gas. But many a times patient
do have complain of excessive flatulence releases. Then what to prescribe?
Gary Yuen: Food preparations, krtanna varga, is
mostly gruel like modern kitchari. Flour products like bread roti etc. Caraka
says provides instant energy. Also said by modern science. Body treats it as
sugar and absorbs it that fast. I think bread is a staple of those that need
it, kshatriya class.
Ayulink Ayurveda: All vata aggravating food can be the
cause for more production of flatulence. Flatulence is directly connected or
understood with the disturbance of apana vata.
Gary Yuen: Blockage i think may be heavy foods
and slow digestion. I will have gas and smelly gas only with improper foods
that even the next day remain undigested and not eliminated. Medicines for such
things may only restart and accelerate digestion but maybe not help with gas.
Frequent
flatulence i don't think there is any treatment except the foods that pervent
it : yava mung etc. Gruel like kitchari but better according to classical
texts. Reduction in heavy and inappropriate foods. Problem i think then should
go away within a few weeks.
Ayulink Ayurveda: Yes. Many a times, in practice, we
forget to prescribe changes in diet, because we are so mechanical now to
prescribe medications. But excessive flatulence is the condition where we
hardly find any medicine. Still we prescribe the same medicines which are used
for adhman
Vd. Sachin Kadlag: Now a days , along with vata
increasing food , seating for longer period is big reason for flatulence disturbance . I
recommend , Walk for 3 minutes after
every 45 minutes .
Ayulink Ayurveda: Yes. I agree totally. And also
excessive travel. Like 50 km or more kilometres riding on two wheelers
(ati-ratha or similar word is used in the books). Excessive air travel too.
Gary Yuen: I think the medicines may work
because they are plants. Caraka states too fried floured grains, Su 27.263
increase vata. Exactly what the north eats. Paratha, roti, naan. I think food
is the only cure and is medicine, just like with previous topic, raktapitta,
long section in caraka of what food to prescribe.
Vd. Sachin Kadlag: Yes , These are significants and they
are few mentiines under the title " Atimahadishakar Bhavas " by
Charaka .
Ayulink Ayurveda: For me all types of lentils, potato,
sweet potatoes, raw onion, several vegetables are more flatulence producing,
which should be controlled.
Few
conditions are here, we need to consider:
1.
Blackage of abdominal gas
2.
Excess flatulence passing
3.
Flatulence with bad smell
4.
Flatulence with loud sound
I
wish we can discuss one by one condition later with all other group members.
Gary Yuen: But you have excessive kapha. Enough that with proper diet, may take half a year to a year or more to
correct. I have wondered that if from improper diet, improper substances from
foods may be stored in dhatus, and they are eliminated as the dhatus restore to
health.
Potatoes
are not natural to India. Like rice, it comes in many colors and dark is best.
In my area, only good type available are purple, yet in the native South
America, there are various colors. White is said to cause inflammation.
I
eat most type of lentils, mainly cooked garlic and onion (maybe 2–3 grams raw
in a meal), sweet potato, purple yam, beets, many kinds of vegetables, and so
forth. But I tend to always cook my own food, and change ingredients according
to moment, just as one should. Gas, frequent gas, smelly gas, mainly comes only
when I deviate and eat the food of others.
Vd. Jayesh Thakkar: Agreed...vata should also be
anulomana...Dhanwantari Gutika helpful in release...to prevent diet lifestyle
check first...it should never be neglected as trapped gas can be worse to cause
heart attack even...
Gary Yuen: I think the natural state is to be as
thin as a yogi, or forest dweller, or very close. I have noticed as my diet
changes, I get hungry less frequently. If given correct food, now possible only
by cooking oneself and avoiding modern habits or even non-classical ones,
hunger and needed food quantity (if using correct foods) should reduce as the
body naturally consumes fat. For a man, anything other than a flat stomach
maybe unnatural. If one gets hungry more than once a day, it may be either from
needed activity (like a farmer that needs large quanitites) or one eats
improper food thus the body is asking for nutrients it never receives. Its said
natural hunger is felt not in the stomach but in the throat. It may take a long
time for most of us to return to that.
Vd. Sachin Kadlag: Flatulence with Bad Smell
(Daurgandhya ) is always denotes
indigestion (Ajeerna) and Saama
condition . Hence Aama pachan is always necessary in such condition , Langhan ,
Deepan , Paachan and laghu aahar are key factors , and if
frequency and quantity is more than
accordingly virechan followed by
Sansarjan kram.
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani:
आनाह:-
➡सुश्रुत:-
आमं शकृद्वा निचितं क्रमेण भूयो विबद्धं विगुणानिलेन।
प्रवर्तमानं न यथास्वमेन विकारमानाहमुदाहरन्ति।।
१) आमज आनाह:-
तस्मिन भवन्त्यामसमुद्भवे तु तृष्णा प्रतिश्याय शिरोविदाहा:।
आमाशये शूलमथो गुरुत्वं ह्रल्लासं उद्गार विघातनं च।।
सुश्रुतोक्त आमाज आनाह चरकोक्त अलसक समान लगता है।
२) पुरीषज आनाह:-
स्तम्भ: कटी पृष्ठपुरीषमुत्रे शूलोऽथ मूर्छा स शकृद्वमेच्च।
श्वासच्च पक्वाशयजे भवन्ति लिङ्गानि चात्रालसकोद्भवानि।।-- (सु.विसुचिका प्रतिषेध अध्याय)
➡अमरकोष:- आनाह विबन्ध: स्यात।
आनाह-णह- बन्धने धातु।।
➡चरक:-
ह्रत्स्तम्भ मूधॕामय गौरवाभ्यामुदगारसङ्गेन सपीनसेन।
आनाहमामप्रभवं जयेत प्रच्छॕदनैलङ्घनपाचनैश्च।।- च.चि.२६
चक्रपाणी:- ह्रदित्यादिना उदावतॕस्यैव हेतुलक्षणं विशेषकृतामानाहसंज्ञा प्रदशर्य तत्र भेषजमाह।--उदावर्त का प्रकार विशेष ही आवास है।
➡
अष्टांग
हृदय:-
साटोपमत्युग्ररूजमाध्मानमुदरे भृशम।
उध्वाॕधोवातरोधेन तमानाहं प्रचक्षते।।- नि.११/६०
सुश्रुत ने जिसे आध्मान कहा है, उसीको अष्टांग ह्रदय ने आनाह कहा है। 👇
साटोपमत्युग्ररुजमाध्मातमुदरं भृशमं।
आध्मानमिति जानियाद्घोरं वातनिरोधजम।। - सु.नि.१/८८
➡
भावप्रकाश:-
तुल्यकारणकार्यत्वादुदावर्तहरी क्रिया।
आनाहेषु च कुवीॕत ...।।
➡मधुकोष:-
इदानी विगुणानिलजत्वेन समानचिकित्स्यत्वेन आनाहमाह-
भा.प्र. एवं माधव ने आनाह एवं उदावर्त को एक जैसा ही माना है,और दोनों में वायु की ही प्रधानता है।
Ayulink Ayurveda: Langhan is not always mean to
renounce food and liquid completely. There
are many special foods and medicines by which we should do Langhan in order to
achieve Langhan properly at the same time not compromising body's health too! In
"langhan" it is not necessary to remain "nirahaar" .Laghu,
supachya aahaar can be taken in "langhan " Is staying totally
niraahar benefit the body? Totally renouncing food must be sometimes beneficial
for body. are there any benefits
mentoined in samhitas of total langhan?
Croatia Branko Markovic: Eating fast is also one factor
Gary Yuen: One commentator states langhana is
used when dosha imbalance is minimum. When in excess, sodhana. I am unsure what
is ideal. Everyone has far deviated from a traditional diet. How many now live
past 100 or reach 120? Villagers still do. Isn't freedom of disease and never
needing medicine a benefit? Memory and intellegence so we can fullfil the
purpose of ayurveda, proper understanding of dharma and study of vedas and
sastras? Shouldn't that mean that with perfect diet, there is never a dosha
imbalance or we are constantly changing diet so it does not occur? Have we
forgotten what is dharma? Is proper karma as suggested in Caraka Vi. 3
understanding daiva and puruskara so that we can understand proper action? Who
asks these questions? Are such the real purpose of proper diet for development
of mind, freedom of disease and study of ayurveda?
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: आहारमग्नि: पचति दोषानाहारवजिॕत:! धातून् क्षीणेषु दोषेषु
Agni
digests Food, in absence of food it digests doshas , in absence of food an
doshas it digests dhatus and after diminish dhatus it destroys body.
Ayulink Ayurveda: Patient is a business man. Age 50+.
Pitts vata prakruti. Controlled diet. But having excessive flatulance. Give me
suggestions. Thnx
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: If pt wants to complete cure and he is
ready to follow whatever is suggested to him then pt should be educated with
RULES OF TAKING FOOD. One should eat only that food in proper quantity which is
Ushna, Snigdha,... Food should be taken without laughing,talking, with
concentration of mind. Exercise helps in releiving vata. Stale food should be
avoided. If pt only wants medicine than
I always prefer SHIVAKSHARAPACHANA CHURNA with ghee before having meal..
SHIVAKSHARAPACHANA balances all three doshas. We should think about factors
responsible for transformation of food:- Ushma, Vayu, kleda, Sneha, Kala,
samyoga. I think there is no need of medicine in flatulence in 90% cases. It's
cured by little bit modifications in life style. Always check mental status of
patients too. In many cases, Medhya RASAYANA should give along with Aamapachana
etc.. Excessive thinking also causes faltulence.
Gary Yuen: Controlled diet may not be correct.
With herbs, we have specific formulas and know properties of each, how combine,
if a formula is correct, etc. Food is the same, each may be used in incorrect
way or amount, or one ingredient may be inappropriate. Meal time, method of
preparation, if food is appropriate for his prakriti, etc. So many factors. We
do not think food as medicine in the same way and with the same care.
Dr Ashi Vaidhya: Avoid fried foods and have
aavippatikar tab 2bd
Gary Yuen: Flatulence is listed as the first
symptom of udara. What is considered less than perfect digestion may be
difficult to define. From my eating habits, with correct food i automatically
lose weight everyday and become less hungry. Seems perfect diet will lead to
naturally being thin. Possible that any diet that creates even the smallest
amount of excess kapha is heavy and inappropriate.
Dr. R Prathiban: Do virechanam with plain castor oil
after 2 days start gandharva hastadi kashayam and abhaya arishtam
Dr. Lalit Heda: Can Nabhipuran improve
digestion,reduce flatulance
17400: If excessive flatulance is there....,
We need to go for LFT check. In case of liver disorders, Flatulance will be
there
Vd. Avni Kaneria: Nabhipuran with ardrak svaras ...
it's improve appetite...
Dr. Vikas Sharma: Viryvardhak aushadh in gradually
increased form give better result to improve digestion and also redeused
flatulence and other symptoms.
Dr.Satish Panda:
1.Balanced
diet
2.Hingwastak
chuna with warm water after food
Almost
sufficient to control flatulence related problem.
Dr. Jyoti Ashok: If the flatulence is bec. of
vegavarodha - Gandahrva hastadi eranda taila or kashaya . Sooktyn tabs is good
in too much of gas(it improves digestion). Hingvashtaka churna with ghee in
first bite. Hareetaki with Nagara churna & guda
Italy Daniela: Talking about yoga postures: pavan
mukhtasan. Knee to chest. Very useful
Gary Yuen: Perhaps anything that is untuous,
oily, and reduces vata like godhuma, masa, and tila can be gas forming in an
improper amount or at the wrong time?
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: I have seen in people around me that
whose digestive system is weak have more flatulence.I that case sunthi, gud and
ghee gives good results. It proves to be grahi
Dr. Arvind Shahane: Vaishwanar churn 1-1-1 before food. Himaj
churn 1tsf hs
Ayulink Ayurveda: Can we use hingu (asafoetida) in all
conditions of flatulance? I know in adhman (blockage of vata) it is very
effective - internal as well as external application also gives good result. But can it be same effective in excess
flatulance too?
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: I think hingu has anuloman property. It
may aggravate???
Ayulink Ayurveda: I think hingu is also having stambhak
property? I am not sure.
Vd. Sachin Kadlag: Hingu is neither anulomak
nor stambhak in my opinion , more specifically its
grahi in action . Stambhan medicine is dominant in shita guna. Hingu is
ushna , dipan and paachak ...
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: Sir you might be knowing that in
India when ever a kid below 6 month cries with pain we check the abdomen, find
it hard we apply hingu on abdomen or we do nabhi puran with hingu And within
short period of time the kid passes the gas and feels relieved So I thought it
might have the property of anuloman
Dr Venkata swamy: Fatty liver aslo one of cause
Ayulink Ayurveda: Hingu can have different qualities
when it is applied external. Similar with ginger too. One side talk: fresh
ginger juice applied in nabhipuran can stop diarrhoea. This is practical and
experienced many times. Ginger does not
have any property as anti-diarrhoea. Similarly hingu can also acts differently
internally and externally.
Dr Venkata swamy: And do Lft if not control. Check
whether any viral infection in liver. Arogya vardhini vati, Chitrakadi vati
good result.
Vd. Sachin Kadlag: Yes , even I give this advice to patients . It acts definitely . Here action on samaan vayu ,
takes place . Saman vayu is located near agni as well as swedavaha srotas is location of samaan . Swedavaha
srotas has its roots as lomakupa and meda .
So hinga even becomes useful in making shakha koshtha gati happen , and
thus dipan , paachan and shulaprashaman
can happen externally to some extent .
It is not completely anuloman as expexted
in defination of Sharangdhar where
example is given as haritaki . Anuloman
by definition needs to fulfill 3 actions
1.
Do Paachan of Mala
2. To break
(bhedan ) vibandha of mala
3.To take mala
downwards .
Hingu
is more potent to much extent in first two actions but not in third . So its
not a classic anuloman .
Shri Minoo parabia: My child hood experience follows. Hing+chuna+honey
, mix a spoon of each and apply over an abdomen. Relief is instantaneous. So
far tested umpteen times, successfully.
Dr.Aksht Sapare: For recurrent flatulance..we must
think about...KRUMI...and deworming is necessary
Vd. Sachin Kadlag: Yes, Purishaja and kaphaja krumi ... Hingu acts on krumi as well as
Prakruti-vighatakar .
Gary Yuen: Caraka Su 4.15 has two groups of
herbs. Astringent to firm and another to depigment, remove color, from feces.
The second i have been curious about. What is the meaning and use? In aiding
digestion, they may be of aid.
Can
we define normal flatulence? I haven't tried to keep track of it. For me in
recent days, nearing end of digestion when there are movements and sounds
(small intestine?), 1 or 2 non-smelly. Though food recently has been small
amount of heavy godhuma and masa. Earlier today, after triphala, guduchi,
dashamul, punarnava, fruit of amalaki/blueberries, uma and tila, once. that
last part is not usual, maybe from some food from yesterday can others describe
their gas and if they believe if normal or excess, etc.
Dr. Sachin Bali: Adhmaan ,aatop are symptoms of
aajirna mostly vishtabdhajeerna and aamaajeerna ,so to deal with aadhmaan and
aatop we should correct aajerna. Nitya
vyayam, avoid adhyashan and vishamashan
Ayulink Ayurveda: I agree with you. Flatulence is most
common symptom in both condition. Diet also plays a major role in both.
Aay Stu Dhruv Jani: I think there should be more
production of gas due to bad habbits of food like Adhyashan, Vishamashan etc. So
the first it should be avoided. Then langhan, saman or shodhan can be done
acco. severity of Dosha
Dr.Amit Shukla: Well, As we all know, production of
gases in the intestine is natural during the process of digestion(by intestinal
floras/enzymes etc). It is basically one
of the by-product of digestion. Whereas conditions like bloating, excessive
flatus are definitely not natural, which are actually due to low
digestion(Agnimandya), which occurs by numbers of Aāhar & Vihār factors.
e.g.
-
Excessive consumption of Vistambhi Aahar (Dairy Products, Rice, Potatoes etc)
-
Sleeping immediately after taking meal, which decrease the secretion of Acid,
enzymes etc
These
conditions lead to excessive formation and excessive gas release than normal
due to fermentation of undigested food material in the intestines. After few
days this whole thing leads to Aam formation, which blocks the strotas and
hence blocks the Vaat anuloman kriya leading to bloating(Aadhman), Abdo Pain,
Abdo Tenderness, Anorexia, Tastelessness etc. Our drugs cure such conditions by
different different ways, (of course selection of these drugs depend upon the
type of Samprapti). Few drugs do Aampachan, which lower further gas formation
by digesting undigested food. Few drugs do Vaat anulomak kriya, which releases
trapped gases(in bloating). Few drugs straight eliminate undigested food from
the system, i.e. Rechak drugs The drugs mentioned here are not applicable in
all the cases. Few are choice of drugs
in VatajAgnimandya(VistabdhaAjirna), Few in PittajAgnimandya(VidagdhaAjirna)
and few in KaphajAgnimandya(AamaAjirna)
Dr Anshul Bahl: What is the reason of gurgling sounds
due to flatulence? Gurgling sounds in stomach.
Ayulink Ayurveda: May be apan vata
Dr.Amit Shukla: Normal flow of Vaat doesn't produce
any sound in the body. When there is
strotorodh by Aam, Kapha, Krumi etc flow of vaat gets disturbed and back flow(Pratiloma), diagonal flow(Tiryak)
occurs. This produces gurgling sound by trapped vaat/liquid in a limited space
in a case of Ajirna. Similarly, Normal flow of stool doesn't produce sound but
in a case of atisaar, strodusthi as atipravritti of vaat leads to gurgling
sound or spasm
Dr Anshul Bahl: Without having any aushadi, we can
cure minor flatulence by pathya, apathya. Deepan, paachan dravya and langhan
can cure this.
Dr.Amit Shukla: but severity of complaints shoukd not be
ignored! We can not and should not give slow acting
drugs in a case of emergency or acute condition. Means Pathya-Apathya things
are surly beneficial but they have certain limitations too in terms of
potential Langhan, Deepan, Pachan
are the prior choices in every case of Annavahstrotas dusti
Dr Anshul Bahl: Most of this starts with minuteness
first. In order to prevent further,Adding medicated water and slight change in
aahar vihaar can easily prevent the emergency stage.Right? Correct me if I'm
wrong
Dr.Amit Shukla: See! Emergency cases should be 'treated' first
along with 'prevention'. Emergency can
not be managed just by prevention.
Dr Anshul Bahl: According to ayurveda, Hunger is one
of the adharniya vega (urge) .We should not supress it.Then do langhan affect
our body if it is done for more days?
Ayulink Ayurveda: First goal is to stop excessive
production of gas. One more goal is to
produce flatulence without bad smell and loud noise. One more goal is to produce flatulence in
'sam' - balance. Not too much or too frequently and not to stop production of
gas completely.
Dr.Amit Shukla: Plz understand the context in which
it is written. Langhan is complete treatment in itself and there are clear cut
indications and protocols regarding same.
Dr. Ravikant Prajapati: 'Sarve rogou mandagnau'...in this
case Samagni will not cause adhyamaan or
aatop
Dr Anshul Bahl: I just asked the langhan in general terms not
in terms of flatulence or gurgling sounds. I just meant by doing fasting, are
we supressing our urge?
Dr. Meenaxi Verma: First daily routine should be
managed...langhan+ deepan+ pachana+yoga basti+shaman aushadhi
Dr. Ravikant Prajapati: One of the end product digestion
process is Vayu.....which when in samyawastha results Anulomana but when in
vishmawastha.....causes flatulence pakwashyotha and belching when amasthyotha
Dr.Amit Shukla: Langhan is not always mean to
renounce food and liquid completely. There
are many special foods and medicines by which we should do Langhan in order to
achieve Langhan properly at the same time not compromising body's health too!
Dr. Sachin Bali: In "langhan" it is not
necessary to remain "nirahaar" .Laghu, supachya aahaar can be taken
in "langhan "
Dr. Ravikant Prajapati: Treatment according to dosha dominancy....when
due to Vata dosha...Anuloman .,Deepan, and brunghan chikitsa should be done.
...no laghan chikitsa When Pitta dosha
involve.....Sama - Niram Pitta vichar.....pitta shaman and anuloman and deepan
chikista When Kapha or Aama dosha is dominant......Langhana ,Pachan then
deepan chikitsa When due to Dushi visha ...... Agad chikitsa., raktashodhak ,
pachan , deepan and anuloman chikitsa... When due to Degenerative ds. or kshya
janya....... no langhan chikitsa .....only pitta shamak and bhrunghan chikitsa
should be done This is my view .... plz
correct me if something wrong
Dr. Priyanka Gupta: In the case of emergency, if pt feel flatulance in abdomen give
triphala basti and pt will get relief instantly after that we can prescribe
saman ausadhi, ahar -vihar
Dr Anshul Bahl: Is staying totally niraahar benefit
the body? Totally renouncing food must be sometimes beneficial for body. are
there any benefits mentoined in samhitas of total langhan?
Dr. Ravikant Prajapati: Whichever Panchakarma therapies /
medicines / lifestyle changes that bring about lightness and thinness
to the body is called Langhana – de-nourishing treatment.
14929: Hinguvastaka is agnideepaka amapachaka
it's important karama is mooda vata anulomana nd hingu vachadi can used in
kapha associate with vata.
Ayulink Ayurveda: Can anyone guide me treatment for
excessive dlatulance?
14929: Sir u can go with triphala Or
vaishwanara churna with hot water
Ayulink Ayurveda: Patient is a business man. Age 50+.
Pitts vata prakruti. Controlled diet. But having excessive flatulance.
Dr. Akshay Jadhav: Ama and agnimandya are root cause for
production of flatulance. First line of treatment is Ahara.... ie diet first
follow langhana , there after avoid guru,vistambha ahara intake . 2nd is vihara
avod asya sukha, swapnasukha do vyama
Bhojanagre
sadha pathyam lavanadraka hingubhi agnisandhipanaruchya jivha kantha
vishodhanam. Simply advice panchatikta ghrata
Dr.Amit Shukla : Why Snehan??
Vd. Hemant k shah: Sir pt is business man&business
man mind,so please add psychological treatment&advise for 8 to 10 days pick
nick(toor)
Dr. Ravikant Prajapati: No any single drug or fixed prescription can cure flatulance....prescription
should be according to Dosha involvement or Doshic Anshansh kalpana.....Those
who practice know it.....the prescription which works well in one pt. .... not may get desired result in others. Advice
Sutshekhar ras 1-2 tab BD if sama pitta ....or Kamdukha rasa in Nirama pitta 2
tab BD before meal ....and shankha vati 1-2 tab BD after
meal...........avipattikar churna or panchasakar churna in Night ...in
anulomana dose
Dr Avadhut Mohite: Vegdharan of Adharniya vegas is a
commonest hetu for Vayu dushti seen in many Business professionals these days
due to their work commitments
Dr. Rajendra Joshi: Madiphala rasayana bd
30995: Vatanulomana chikitsa . Action on
Apana vayu. Normal Peristalsis movement
Dr. Akshay Jadhav: Not snehana but for pitta shamana
Ayulink Ayurveda: Can anyone suggest good diet for each
condition?
Dr.Amit Shukla: For pitta shaman, Plain ghee is enough! Whereas, Panchatikta Ghruta is drug of choice
for Vāt-Pittaj Tvak vikar. as it has different strotogamitva i would say
dadimadi ghruta is comparatively more precise!
Ayulink Ayurveda: Dadimadi ghrut for flatulance? For
adhman or for excessive flatulence?
Dr.Amit Shukla : Patient in above case has just
bloating, and nothing else has mentioned. Based on given history he has
VatajAgnimandya i.e.VistabdhaAjirna.I feel we should not use any ghruta or tail
based drugs which actually in turn aggravate his complaints even more by
indigestion itself! Atleast in intial stage without doing AamPachan! Yes! Dadimadi
ghruta has main ingredients like Dadima,
Chitrak, Dhanya, Pipaali. They have Vaat-kapha shamak properties with
Jathar-Dipan, KledaPachan, AamPachan, Vatanulomak actions. Ras dhatu and
Rasvahastroto Gamitva. Thts why we do use it in Annavah and Rasvahastroto vicar.
Like Pandu, gruhani, Parinamshool, hridvikar etc
Dr. Sachin Bali: Yes, anxiety is many times found
along with abdominal complaints
75636: FALTULENCE--It's a roga and lakshan
too. Root cause is aniyamit dincharya,
hurry, worry and curry. I agree with Vd Pankaj. When I treat pt I try to give mansik chiktsa
and dipan pacan chiktsa so that pt feel better. I got good results with two A.
First
A--Agnitundi vati, Abhyarista, Ashwagandha..
Second
A---Agnihotra, gives mental stress relief.
Ayulink Ayurveda: Any trial with nabhipuran? For
flatulence?
30995: Done with eranda taila in
children.... Also local application of eranda taila smeared Nagavalli patra in
infants to relieve pain abd due to gas
75636: A small हवन
in which I tell pt to take deep breath and say Gayatri mantra, महामृत्युंजय मंत्र Jaap.By doing this pt itself say that
he/she is feeling mentally sound and slowly digestion also ।
Dr. Chanchal Sharma: I have done it in many patients with
sarshap tailam. Got good results also
Ayulink Ayurveda: Sarshap tailam means mustard oil?
Which one yellow mustard or black mustard oil? Can it produce skin burning or
itching?
Dr. Chanchal Sharma: Yellow oil. No it doesn't create
burning or itching
Dr Anshul Bahl: Is sesame tailam is good for both vata
and kapha?
Ayulink Ayurveda: For me; yes. I consider seasme is
good for all Disha. But sometimes it increases pitta.
Dr Anshul Bahl: In Ashtang Hrdiyam Vaghbhatta have
written about sesame oil that it makes lean person and strong and sthula person
lean. But in other sthaan(Annaswarupa adhaya) vaghbhatta had written that
sesame seeds increases pitta and kapja. This shloka is on oil and other one is
on seeds
Ayulink Ayurveda: Can we use hingu (asafoetida) in all
conditions of flatulance? I know in adhman (blockage of vata) it is very
effective - internal as well as external application also gives good result. But can it be same effective in excess
flatulance too?
Dr Anshul Bahl: If the flatuence is supressed forcibly,
the apana vayu gets disturbed. And If it is done on daily basis then the vayu
changes its direction and start moving in the body to the upward direction .
This abnormal movement of apaan vayu gives rise to Udavarta. Mostly the
patients who comes with problem of flatuence have problems like teevra
swasa,constipation, klama,gurgling sounds in the abdomen, kasa,pratishyaya. And
its all because of supression of flatulance. So the first treatment option
should be Nidaan parivarjana
Dr. Ravikant Prajapati: Hingu is not not useful in ...... P
dominant adhyaman..
14929: Hingu can't use in all case...i had
one experience..In one of my pt due to came c/o feels gas filled stomuch and
pain in chest..if he passes gas he feels relief.. I adviced him to take hingu
in hot water in empty stomach but he felt naesue nd started with moving of gas
in side his abdomen. So I shifted him to
take hingu with salt and butter milk. He
felt comfort.
Dr.Amit Shukla : Hingu being Tikshna, Ushna,
Sukshma,Vyavayi etc should be carefully prescribed in terms of dose.As it's
Vāt, Kapha shamak and also Pitta Prakopak too, even slight increase in its dose
could cause Pittaj Shool! As per
Ansha-ansh kalpana, it is better to use
in every cases of bloating where sheet guna of Vaat has increased! Whereas,
If bloating is due to aggravation of ruksha guna of vāt, we should use snigdha
anulomak like haritaki or erand kalpa!
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Compiled by - Dr. Dhruti Kagrana
Compiled by - Dr. Dhruti Kagrana
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