Views shared by
several Ayurveda professionals and non-Ayurveda people in discussion group:
Disclaimer:
All views shared here are
only for knowledge. This information doesn’t have any scientific
validation. Various doctors and non-medicos have shared their views
and experiences in this discussion. Please do not try any of the suggestions
described here, without prior consult from your regular, qualified doctor. Dr.
Prerak Shah and no other person is responsible for any unwanted effects, side
effects or contra-indications in your health. Thank you.
(Any ayurveda or medical
doctor, If you like this activity, and wants to be a part of this chat
discussion on whatsapp, please send in your request by email to admin@ayulink.com Thank you.)
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
AyuCafe - Live chat
Topic of discussion: Atisara - Diahorrea according to
Ayurveda
Ayulink Ayurveda: We are approaching now summer / heat. During
extreme heat, one of the major health complains is Diahorrea or atisara. Let us
share our practical knowledge for it
Saparsha: Atisara
is a way for the body to flush out toxin
Vd Ashish Kumar: अतिसार को
तुरंत
शुरू
में
बन्द
न
करें
Vd. Ekta D. Patel: In which type of atisara kutaj ghanvati is
indicated?
Vd Ashish Kumar: पहले
देखे
वो
शुद्ध
अतिसार
है
या
फिर
आम
के
साथ
**********************************************
Ayulink offers Arthrothermia treatment for any kind of Joint/Ligament/Neuro - Muscular disease.
**********************************************
Ayulink Ayurveda: Usually, doctor suggest anti-diarroheal medicines. but Charak does not advocate it
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Does anyone come across shokaj atisar
Vd Ashish Kumar: भयज अतिसार
में
आश्वासन
करें
Ayulink Ayurveda: yes....shokaj atisar patients do come for
ayurveda treatment
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Where to use laghu sutsekhar and lasunadi
vati ?
Ayulink Ayurveda: shokaj atisar also needs counseling
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Why in summer season pts of diarrhoea
increases
Vd Ashish Kumar: लघु सूत-पित्त
प्रधान,
लशुन-
वात
प्रधान
87712: Agni mandya
Vd Ashish Kumar: पित्तज अग्निमांध
Saparsha:
In Pittaja atisara kutaj ghan vati is indicated I guess as it’s sheeta veerya
Ayulink Ayurveda: yes this is my basic question too. types of
atisara?
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Water level decrease and water become harder
..So unable to digest?? Is it reason in summer
Saparsha:
Vataja, Pittaja, Kaphaja and Sannipataja are basic types, Amatisara and pakvatisara
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Water born disease?
Ayulink Ayurveda: Bhayaj and shokaj atisara too.
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Again in starting of rainy season pts of
diarrhea increases... Nav jal??
Ayulink Ayurveda: we don’t have such atisara type in text book,
but we know with the infection it can be there. is there any practical
difference for the treatment?
92533: Rutusandhi kala, their body has to adjust
Ayulink Ayurveda: mostly we use kutaj, bilva etc for any type
of atisara and having good results.
May be rutu sandhi --> mandagni
--> atisara
14929:
Dhadima twak kashaya is also preferred, Peya.
93204:
AteEva sarathi iti atisara
Atri Ghosh:
kutaja ghanabati is best
Saparsha:
Shunti kalpa
93204:
I think shall we discuss in order like paryaya nidana Poorva Rupa Rupa
samprapti vyadhi nirnaya and then bheda then medicinal intervention and non
medicinal intervention
Ayulink Ayurveda: yes, dadima is good for atisara. kutaja in
basti form is fast and effective - but always needs to take extra care...In
high dose of kutaj, it can create complications. Grahi basti or sangrahi basti
are there for atisara. good suggestions
Vd. Ekta D. Patel: in summer due to heat the drav& sar guna
of pitta is increase & as well as agni is decrease & pitta get
adhisthana in pakvashaya & so atisara is happning
Ayulink Ayurveda: increased pitta with decreased agni --that is
the most to understand
14929: Takra
is, best
Vd. Ekta D. Patel: In charak samhita nidana vataj atisara - atap
& pittaj atisara- suryasantap is given
Ayulink Ayurveda: Curd / yogurt and rice is common home remedy
Dr. Ravi Dewan: What sort of complications?
14138:
Dadimastaka choorna?
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Sunthi siddha jal
46719:
Excessive indulgence in sun light is one of the reason of diarrhoea
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Bilajil
Ayulink Ayurveda: I think all are ayurveda doctors here, so let
us start with treatment segment......traditional treatment, home remedies and
classical text book treatment
Dr. Dhananjay Bairagi: Bel sarbat
Vd. Ekta D. Patel: Due to that in summer pt of atisara is
increased
46719:
Depending upon the intensity, kutaj ghanwati and Sanjivani will affect soon
14138: Methika
seeds with takra
Ayulink Ayurveda: *FIRST ALL HOME REMEDIES*
Dr. Kaustubh Badave: Coffee
Ayulink Ayurveda: CURD + RICE
Dr. Daisy Kanabar: Limbu sarbat
14929:
Dadima twak chrna with takra
Ayulink Ayurveda: apple juice + nutmeg powder
Dr. Daisy Kanabar: Coffee
Dr. Kaustubh Badave: Coffee + lemon
Dr. Dhanwantri Tyagi: Cease milk in all patients, use khichdi+curd.
Take boiled cooled water.
46719: Chaipatti
with water
Dr. Kaustubh Badave: Juice
Ayulink Ayurveda: nutmeg (jatifal or jayfal) itself is
effective
14138:
Some suggest black tea, since it is kashaya pradhana
Ayulink Ayurveda: nabhipuran with ginger juice (fresh juice of
ginger)
46719:
Kashaye rasa Pradhan items
40918:
Salt + sugar + boiled water is first line of Rx
Ayulink Ayurveda: Nabhipuarn is very effective and faster
treatment - usually it stops atisara in 15-20 min
Atri Ghosh: what
type of complication
Ayulink Ayurveda: not only atisara, but also effective in
abdominal distress, flatulance, cramps, bloating etc.
14138:
Folklore, fried rice with lots of onion.
Atri Ghosh:
best for rakta atisar
Dr. Dhanwantri Tyagi: The best home remedy is to not to try to
cease atisara at once. At least upto 3-4 Vegas.
Dr. Arvind Shahane: ASFA karpur ras is very useful in paediatric
diarrhea. I'm continue using it in gp.
14929: Idli
with curd
Ayulink Ayurveda: karpur ras contains ahifena, I think....take
care
14138:
Bread also is given.
Ayulink Ayurveda: karpur, hingul, musta, indrayav, jatifal and
ahifen are ingredients of karpur ras
Dr. Dhanwantri Tyagi: No need to afraid of ahifene. Just dispense
by self and do not dispense more than two doses and do not let patient include
this in patients first aid box. We are using ahiphena since two generations.
Using it for pediatric patients. Most pediatric patients with severe diarrhoea
since 10-15 days, unmanageable even by intensive care, can be managed easily.
Only two doses and just 4 hours needed.
Ayulink Ayurveda: OK. Lets us now discuss *classical medicines*
describe by text books
Dr. Dhanwantri Tyagi: बिल्व,
कुटज,
कदली,
दधि,
साठी,
Ayulink Ayurveda: yes...even in adult patient it is the same
01137:
Any formulation of all these or separately given and how?
Ayulink Ayurveda: I use aamrakshashi vati sometime, which also
contains ahifen.
93204:
What are all the conditions atisara is present as lakshana
Ayulink Ayurveda: good question
Dr. Dhanwantri Tyagi: Yes. Many pharmacies are manufacturing
ahiphena containing medicine
Ayulink Ayurveda: karpur ras, aamrakhsashi ras, are main
formulations i know. Kutaj Ghana vati is most common. Bilajit or any bilva
preparation is also common
14138: Bilwadi
lehya,
Dr. Dhanwantri Tyagi: Do not use ahiphena in early symptoms,
dispense only. Use diet restrictions as sansar jana karma. Dhanvantari herbals
amritsar manufactures DYSENTROL. In
tablet form.
14138:
Gangadhar rasa
Dr. Devesh Kumar: In gastroenteritis I use sanjivani vati
14138: Ananda
Bhairava rasa
Ayulink Ayurveda: some doctors also use shankha vati
Vd Aashik Manjooran: Atisara. In guna samprapti it is chala guna
of vata and sara guna of pitta are increased
93204: There
are number of medicines for Atisara as we are discussing , kindly someone
summarise for a set of lakshanas Like V P K etc types which type of medicines
may be recommended , i think that should be the take home message
Vd. Ekta D. Patel: In raktatisara piccha basti of shalmali is
also give a good result
14138:
Praval panchamruta rasa also
Dr. Nahida Tarannum: Ya kutajaghan vati along with bilva and
dadima phala formulations will work
Vd Aashik Manjooran: And in Aamavashtha Grahi oushadhis are not
used
14929:
Liquid foods like peya vilepi are best
24566:
Pratat agni Surya santap Ushna marut uphat gatra i.e Summer season
14929:
Jave goodi used with takra also given
Ayulink Ayurveda: I would suggest to google for *GUT-BRAIN
RELATION* to understand Bhayaj Atisara or Shokaj atisara. Now modern scientists
are trying to treat with basti (enema). which is practically result oriented
treatment
Vd Aashik Manjooran: Rx in Aamavashtha
MUsta kashayam
Hinguvashtak choornam with ghee bf
food
Vilvadi gulika or Dhanvantaram gulika
2 -0-2
93204:
Best pathya for Atisara is Rice Kanji
Vd Aashik Manjooran:
In nirama avastha
Kutajarishtam
Babularishtam
Takra panam
Vd Aashik Manjooran:
Lasuna swarasam 1tbs. Best
Lasunadi vati
Karpooradi rasa
80697:
Have one que. Want to know about relation b/w crohn's disease and grahni/
atisara..
Ayulink Ayurveda: Crohn's is having multiple ulcerations in
intestine and Grahani / atisara not having ulcerations
04992:
Yes there is relation. Not necessary
24566:
Summer season Atisara should be treated by Deepn Pachan Shaman and Sangrahan
80697:
Well formed non caseating Granuloma and crypt absces. will be there in crohn's.. Neutrophilic infletration
will be there +Skip lesions
04992:
It is inflammatory bowel disease affects in transmural region
80697:
Mean we have to correlate by symptoms!???
(? How)
04992:
From mouth to anus it can create anywhere lesion
80697:
Yes. Mostly presented as hemorrhoidal condition.
Dipana
Pachana
Stambhana
Mrudu virechana.. Line of
Treatment i m thinking... .
80697: Most
important "stress....."
-------------------------------.
Compiled by - Dr. Dhruti Kagrana
Compiled by - Dr. Dhruti Kagrana
No comments:
Post a Comment