Saturday, April 14, 2018

Uses of Guduchi (Tinospora Corlifoia) #Ayurveda

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Next topic for discussion: Uses of Guduchi (Tinospora Corlifoia)
Dr. Shantanandkumar: Guduchi is Trisha shamak, Useful in fever, Madhumeha, Tridosha.
Dr. Arvind Shahane: Guduchi is asthapan dravya. It work as asthapan karma.
Ayulink: It is powerful immuno-modulator
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Jwarghna Guduchi

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Dr Jayesh Patel: Guduchi swaras use as medhya rasayan....
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Yes Guduchi swaras in Prameh also. It is good Rasayan aushadhi also tridosh shamak can be given in any disease or as rasayan.
Vd. Hardik bhatt: To get swaras from guduchi kand is very hard work. Kwath is easy .. and mostly kwath used. Or churn. Guduchi satv is more powerful drug.
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Amruta kalp Balya.
USA Dr. Anjum: Guduchi Satva is highly beneficial in cancer patient, It detoxifies liver, problems like burning , bleeding , gastritis ,ulcers,It’s anti inflammatory .
Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: Guduchi satva is highly effective in burning sensation in feet with cow ghee
Dr Jayesh Patel: So best in UTI
Ayulink: Please mention dose, and / or any specific application method, so that other friends can get more knowledge.
Shail H. Bhavsar: Guduchi swaras or guduchi satwa is used in jwara. Amrutarishta is used in jeerna jwara or visham jwara. Samshamni vati which is made from guduchi satwa is useful in jwara
Dr. Vasupradha R: Which company offers genuine guduchi satwam?
Dr. Arvind Shahane: Doses according to diseases and ages
Dr Mahjabeen: I used both stem n leaves of giloy powder /500 capsule bd. I used in Aneamia, musle wasting,suger,bone defarmity,viral infection,
USA Dr. Anjum: Giloy Satva 1-2 gms with water bd. Amruth arista two tsf mixed with equal guantity of water can be given any time of jwara after food
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: “Giloy is a universal herb that helps boost immunity”. It is a powerhouse of antioxidants which fight free-radicals, keep your cells healthy and get rid of diseases. Giloy helps remove toxins, purifies blood, fights bacteria that causes diseases and also combats liver diseases and urinary tract infections. “Giloy is popularly known for its anti-inflammatory benefits and helps reduce respiratory problems like frequent cough, cold, tonsils”.  “Giloy contains anti-inflammatory and anti-arthritic properties that help treat arthritis and its several symptoms. For joint pain, the powder from giloy stem can be boiled with milk and consumed”, It can be used along with ginger to treat rheumatoid arthritis.
Dr. Krishnapriya: Guduchi satwa is used to treat obesity​ and prameha wd ayaskrithy. Its said in dwividhopakramaneeya for apatarpana/langana for sthula
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: Gudchi is very good immunomodulator. It is used as antiviral since a long time by making kada of it.
Dr. Piyush Dodiwadiya: Why people prefers guduchi from nimb tree. Is there any reference of reason?
Dr Mahjabeen: As it is immunomodulator it can be used in thyroid,arthritis. Can be used in auto immune modulator
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Granth says That Guduchi is Shreshth which is on nimb tree. Dont know reason
Dr. Sanjeev Gupta: I use guduchi satva in fever & body ache . 500 mg to 1 gm according to body weight . TDS
Gary Yuen:  Supposidly it's used to help children grow?
Ayulink:  Gorwth comprise many factors. May be as Guduchi takes care of immunity, and plays its role in growth. Some scholars indicates Guduchi as a cellular rejuvenator.
Dr. Kalpesh Vani: Due to Nimba its Titka ras gets enhanced
Vd Jigar Narsana: Guduchi is also beneficial in gout.. arthritic fever me bhi itna hi useful he...
Dr. Pranita Shah: It is said that guduchi partially takes up the gunas of the tree on which it grows. Hence guduchi growing on nimb is beneficial.
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: Amruta gugglu is very good in vata rakta. Only 2 tab BID with Luke warm water gives very good results in vata rakta. Not only guduchi, every one who is taking nutrition from other definitely take gunas from them, just like a baby who is getting feed from his mother. If we take guduchi from a nimb tree, then there will be more tikta rasa and it is very good for pitta shaman as well as good for immune.
Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Guduchi has multiple role. I have tremendous result in gout .Swelling To built Immunity ,for rejuvenation therapy it's very effective. In Typhoid fever Guduchi gives good result because of its Pitt shamak role. Shanshamanivati gives very good result in Jirna jwar.
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: It is very bad in taste. Is there any form of Guduchi which can give to children for immune?
Dr. Sanjeev Gupta: Guduchi ghan satva with milk .
Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: In Back pain,Spinal cord problems, in osteoporosis we can give Tiktkshir Basti
Dr. Satish Panda: Guruchi is tridosha samak. Synonyms is Amrita means Nectar. So,I always used it all the problems when needed some more better result ,but in different proportion. Result are also improved.Try it. The areal roots of Guduchi are so thin yet so strong that, Sushruta used to use this for suturing surgical wounds. This had duel benefits. One was – the thread were very strong so, there was no chance of wound rupture. Second is, Guduchi has potent wound healing property. Hence wound healing used to happen very quickly.
Dr. Navneeth Krishnan: In Bhaishajya ratnavali,use of Guduchi with different combinations have been mentioned like Guduchi swarasa and ghrta useful in vata roga, Guduchi with guda for vibanda, Guduchi with sita for pitta, Guduhci with madhu in Kaphaja roga, Guduchi with Eranda taila in vata rakta, and finally Guduchi with sundi in ama vata
Dr. Bhavesh Modh: गळोसत्व who  one read Gujarati fonts  & understand Gujarati.. click  this link... know about  Guduchi Satv...
Dr. Satish Panda: Guruchi satwa with honey for children.
Croatia Branko Markovic: Guduchi kashaya capsules 5 tid + kaishora guggulu 2 tid give realy quick results in ama vata. After panchakarma it rejuvanate whole body in rasayna doses. I use it up to 15 capsules per day on empty stomach with milk. Medhya rasayana as it uplift mood, makes people happy. For depresion, fatigue.. During menopause with burning symptoms. Skin problems like rash or eczema, urticaria. After or along with chemotherapy or radiation. Best quick immune booster. Better results after virechana.
Dr. Sujata Vaidya: Can it be given to 6 yrs old patient with genetic issue of muscle wasting?
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Amruta kalp. It's good bcz it's Balya also , my son likes it so much. He eats that kalp like sugar.
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: Which pharma?
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: For fever I give amrittotar kashay to my kids in fever. The temperature comes down as like it comes down with crocin. But the taste is pathetic. My elder one takes but other kids does not bcoz of it's taste
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: As guduchi is more in tikta so taste is too much bad. But Amruta satva is good option . With honey it can be given
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Preparation
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: I use ready  Kottakkal Aryavaidya shala. Will definitely try it
Dr Piyushbhai Prajapati: Nasya of Guduchi and Durva mistrit dugdh is given in pregnancy.. everyday or everymonth.. for Detoxification of Uterus and removing heat of Uterus.. so miscarriege will be avoided
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: Something new
Dr. Vivek D. Shah: I use Amrutarishta with sutsekhar ras in all type of *bhram(vertigo)* & also in all type of liver & spleen disorders. Guduchi juice mixed with aloevera juice helps in initial stage of *Jaundice.* Also normalise dysmenorhoea.. *Guduchi* is a multitasking drug if one can use in proper manner as described in various books..
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: Dosage of amrutaristam and soothshakher??
Dr. Vivek D. Shah: Dosage always depends on patient's prakruti,sevearity of disease, cause of disease, agni of  patient etc. So i can not say exact dosage particularly. I just can say minimum dosage 15-20 ml twice or thrice a day in adult patient in initial stage. *Sootsekhar ras* from 2 rati to 4 rati twice or thrice a day...
USA Dr. Anjum: I have used guduchi ghan vati  two tablet twice in allergic rashes , hives , eczema , urticaria rashes , environmental allergies along with aryogyavardini vati two tablet twice has shown very good result . Those patients who are kept on antihistamine and steroid medicine guduchi was used and systematically allopathy medication was weaned out of the system . Tremendous result in kids who are on inhalers guduchi along with sitopaladi powder was given ,twice a day along with honey
Croatia Branko Markovic: How long do you advise use of Guduchi?
USA Dr. Anjum: Depending on condition .
Dr. Sujata Vaidya: Yes
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: We can't extend the life of patient but we can do better quality of life. But with guduchi only it can't b possible. I treated two of patients of DMD with shaktishali pind sweda and results were good.
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Can you tell us the procedure?? Very good idea , i advise to take durava swaras nasya to Garbhini but not heard about the amruta nasyA.
31503: Yes, same here. How Guduchi work in such cases?
Dr. Krishnapriya: Nasya in some month is contraindicated in garbhini rit??
Gary Yuen: Is it an herb that can be often used like amalaki and haritaki? In the ramayana, after the defeat of Ravana, to bring the fallen monkey army back to life, Indra brought down amrita. It's said this is guduchi. Is this true or a later interpolation?
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Dr. Samir Suneri: Guduchi . I m using this drug in vaatrakta, and to improve Immunity
Germany Hetal Shah: Is it also useful for reducing weight?
Dr. Samir Suneri: Guduchi satva is unique drug for making combination of some drugs
Vd. Khyati Jariwala: I m using diuretic,immuno booster n antipyretic according to prakruti
Dr. Sachin Bali: Stress related symptoms मे गुडूची क्षीरपाक: 25-50ml रसायन काल में देनेसे उपयोग होता दिखाई देता है
Dr. Amrish A Shah: Chronic fever 3tab to 21 tab per day divided dose for 3 to 6 month. Result is Good. Vatrakta me best drug hai
Dr. Samir Suneri: Dose 1 tab TDs or 2bd for vaatrakta and low Immunity
Dr. Vishva Joshi: Once I have use round itchy skin lesion having small small dotts in that lesion and it was on over body.I gave guduchi,sakar,ghee,honey mix all these and make small vati and keep it in freeze bcz it smell like gomutra,take in early morning 4 tab empty stomach,pt take it for 6 month. Result was amazing everything absorbed.and good health for 1 yrs no any seasonal illness.
Compiled by - Dr. Dhruti Kagrana

Tuesday, April 10, 2018

Use of Haritaki in different condition with different anupan #Ayurveda

Views shared by several Ayurveda professionals and non-Ayurveda people in discussion group:
All views shared here are only for knowledge. This information doesn’t have any scientific validation. Various doctors and non-medicos have shared their views and experiences in this discussion. Please do not try any of the suggestions described here, without prior consult from your regular, qualified doctor. Dr. Prerak Shah and no other person is responsible for any unwanted effects, side effects or contra-indications in your health. Thank you. 
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Next topic for discussion: Use of Haritaki in different condition with different anupan 
Ayulink: It is said that a best knowledgeable / experienced ayurveda doctor can use a single herb in nearly 100 conditions. Let's check our knowledge. All together can we find out 100 different applications of Haritaki ?
Dr Anzil Eramangalath: Haritaki+Amalaki along with Warm water 15 minutes before food twice a day will control diabetes.
Ayulink: Different anupan for Haritaki to use in different seasons
1. Varsha - saindhava
2. Sharda - sarkara
3. Hemanta - sunthi
4. Shishira - pippali
5. Vasant - madhu
6. Grishma - Gud
(Rutu Haritaki Bhavprakash haritakyadi varga.)
Student Shail H. Bhavsar: Haritaki with anupan in different rutu is called rutu haritaki 

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Dr. Hiral Khakhar: Haritaki is best for srotoshodhan and helps to improve digestion. It can be taken with ghee to control vata,with sarkara to control pitta,with saindhav or warm water to control kapha..
Vd. Hardik bhatt: Haritaki churn with warm water at night time or early morning .. for vibandh.. To chew haritaki increases .. jatharagni... Charvita vardhayate agni. Haritaki churn with sunthi Siddharth jal for diarrhoea . Haritaki churn with buttermilk for grahni or spru. Roasted haritaki or haritaki churn good for jathragni... Dusting with haritaki churn in vran... Stops bleeding .. Local application of haritaki paste ... for skin disorder like ring worm. Haritaki churn with cow's milk for local application on vyang- acne .- pimlples..
Dr Jayesh Patel: Haritaki taken with cow ghrut - work as an immunity booster .
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: Is it tested or texted
Dr. Hiral Khakhar: Which is best for constipation or indigestion harde or himej?
Dr Anzil Eramangalath: texted and tested.... Nishakamalaka choornam, product is also there in market

Vd. Dhruti Nirav: Haritaki is best Vatanuloman .In Apanvayu dusti it works good . Erandbhrist Haritaki has good results in Vibandh. In Gynecological problems like Dysmenorrhea, Amenorrhea, Infertility Erandbhrist Haritaki gives very good results. Bleeding in injury apply Haritaki powder or Turmeric powder stop bleeding . In Vatik Kas (Dry caughing ) put Haritaki in mouth and swallow it's Ras it's also beneficial.In Shirsh shool(Headache) give Haritaki in early morning with warm water. Agtsya haritaki avleh works in Bronchitis,T.B., caughing. In children give Bal Haritaki With honey It's Mateubhaishaj .
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: Haritiki is well known Virechana but as a sangrahi and  sthambhak??
Ayulink: yes, with proper anupana, Haritaki can be used as stambhak.
Dr. Sanjeev Gupta: Haritaki decoction with arand use in Grhani & constipation .
Dr Anzil Eramangalath: Eranda? Leaves or oil?
Dr. Sahaj Shah: Oil. This combination works as a good anulomak
Dr Piyushbhai Prajapati: Sunthi Haritaki decoction is very good Aampachak.. it also works in Aamaj Shul Condition.. even in headache due to travelling;this combo also works..
Vd Sandeep Kumar:
कदाचित् कुप्यते माता न उदरस्था हरितकी।।
One of respected vd in jalgaanv gives haritaki halva to opd patients..
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: Haritaki is so important that there is webpage only for haritaki.
The quotation for haritaki is also donate it's imp. *.............Kadachit kupiyate mata, kada na haratki*
It is having qualities just like mother.

Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: I use haritaki 2-2bd/tds for High BP
Dr. Anita Phadatare: As haritaki is having lavan varjit pancharas ,I think it can be used in increased blood pressure,if anyone has experience pls share
Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: excellent result i found
Vd. Manhar Prajapati: Ketla bp shudhi control and ketla samay ma thayel ?plz share ur experience its looking good....
Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: 160/120 sudhi with in 15 day normal
Dr. Sanjeev Gupta: Haritaki is ushan verya , so how can we use in High BP ?
Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: Haritaki is vatanulomak ,apanvayu udanvayu savalo kare
Dr. Piyush Dodiwadiya: 1-- can we use AADRA haritaki or it has to be SUSHKA  2-- poweder of haritaki with seed or only outer cover
Dr. Sanjeev Gupta: Only outer cover I use & sushka
Dr. Bhavesh Modh: Hartaki Use in Gastric Ulcers as well as Acidity... ( not
अम्लपित्त ) The gastro protective mechanism of chebulinic acid isolated from *Terminalia chebula fruit* was investigated. Chebulinic acid was evaluated against cold restraint, CRU  aspirin , AS alcohol,AL  and pyloric ligation, PL induced *gastric* *ulcer models in rats.*  Potential anti-ulcer activity of chebulinic acid was observed against CRU (62.9%),  AS (55.3%),  AL (80.67%) and PL (66.63%)  induced ulcer models. The reference drug *omeprazole* (10 mg/kg, p.o.) showed 77.73% protection against CRU,  58.30% against AS and  70.80% against PL model.  *Sucralfate* , another reference drug (500 mg/kg, p.o.) showed 65.67% protection in AL induced ulcer model. *Chebulinic acid significantly reduced free acidity* (48.82%), total acidity (38.29%) and upregulated mucin secretion by 59.75% respectively.  Further, chebulinic acid significantly inhibited H(+) K(+)-ATPase activity in vitro with IC50 of 65.01 μg/ml as compared to the IC50 value of omeprazole (30.24 μg/ml) confirming its anti-secretory activity.
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Haritaki as a Rasayana Due to its chemical composition of chebulinic acid... The plant has adrenergic function and helps to recover from stress. Onecompound chebulagic acid from Haritaki has shown antispasmodic action like papaverine. The plant used is used as an antidote against bites of snakes. Regular use of Haritaki improves memory due to beneficial effects on the nerves of brain.
Vd. Avni Kaneria:
पेशिता =मल शोधिनी  स्विन्ना=संग्राहिनी  भृष्टा=त्रिदोषनुत
Vd Sandeep Kumar:
चर्विता वर्ध्यती अग्नि।।
Dr. Pritam Veer: Haritaki or Abhaya drug of choice for constipation. Given with warm water at bed time gives good results. Abhayarishta made up of abhaya uses in treatment of Piles. Can be given with warm water.  Bal Hirda or Haritaki as it's name can be given in Bala or paediatric patients. Other firm Survari Hirda , my sir used to give to pt who have habit of tobacco chewing. I haven't tasted but sir says it's taste is like tobacco. Can be given to chronic tobacco chewers. If anyone has information about Survari Hirda plz share. I hv this much information. Also Haritaki works well in the cases of Udan and Apan Vikruti. Because of Udan vikruti , there can be Kaas , shwas like diseases. But Haritaki does Vaat anuloman so can be given to such vaatat Kaas , shwas cases.
Dr. R Prathiban: The main ingredient in abhaya arishta is amalaki. Amalaki is added twice the quantity of haritaki
Dr. Vivek D. Shah: Haritaki + punarnava processed with gaumutra gives powerful effect in lekhan karma...also in oedema feet & in filariasis...
Dr. Navneeth Krishnan: There are few abayarista yoga in classics sir, in some amalaki is more and I'm some abhaya is more. The one I make has more abhaya and it's from Sahasrayogam. And based on the ingredients the indications Also changes. In Sahasrayogam itself two yogas of abhayarista mentioned with different indication and ingredients
Gary Yuen: There is a study showing 3 grams of amalaki powder works about as well as one diabetic medicine. There are other studies showing a vegetarian diet can cure diabetes (cause is excess muscle fat). Haritaki studies I think have been done only in rats.
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: Vardhman gud haritaki yog for santarpjanya vikar ... Like sthaulya,
Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: In mucous colitis(pravah ika) we can use shiva(haritaki)+ vishwa(sunthi)....
In This unique combination sunthi will do pachana of kafa or ama at the same time haritaki will evacuate the digested ama...thus pathology(samprapti ) will be destroyed
Croatia Branko Markovic: Haritaki for hemorrhoids
The powder of Haritaki fruit is made into paste with equal amount of jaggery. This is administered before food to reduce pain, itching and size of hemorrhoids. Haritaki along with buttermilk is administered for piles. (Charaka Chikitsa Sthana 14th chapter).
Vd Sandeep Kumar: I have 2 patients of colitis sir can u advise the ratio of both and anupan of the churna
Gary Yuen: The development of Terminalia chebula Retz. (Combretaceae) in clinical research
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: Sir starting with 5 gm per day (2.5 gm haritaki and 2.5 gm gud )..Then 10 gm ..15 gm ...35 gm at 7th day ... Vardhman matra ...But we can change matra according to pt .. Then again decreasing order ...Total 14 day ... This not exactly dose which said in chakra datta ...
Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: 1:2 sunthi: haritaki.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: ShivaKshar Paachan churna best 4 ajirna or mandagni, aamaj conditiions.
Shiva =Haritaki, Kshar=Yavkshar.
Gary Yuen: Is anyone using it for cancer? It's supposed to be the main herb according to some doctors. As far as antioxidants, triphala is about 3x of amalaki meaning one of the 3 fruits is much higher. I think it is haritaki.
Dr. Jyoti Ashok: In urdvaga amlapitta guda hareetaki nagara is best combination.
Dr. Samir Suneri: *GANDHRAHARITAKI*  Ingredients haritaki, Eranda oil, Saindhav, Pippali. Dose 5gram in night with worm water. We r using this medicine in visamaagni, aam pachan, and vibandh. This powder is very effective when patient have a problem of aam janya vikar
Vd Ashish Kumar:
जब शुष्क कास कैसे भी कम न हो रही हो तब हरीतकी फल को भूनकर गुड़ के साथ चूसने के लिये रोगी को दिया जाए तब आराम हो जाता है।कुछ रोगियों पर उपयोग कर के भी देखा
Dr. Amrish A Shah: Arand bhrast Haritaki Best for piles fissure constipation 4gm to6gm at Night worm water or Erley morning Result is best
Canada Nitin Shah: For children- it can be given daily in moderate dosage as it is pathya
Dr. Vishva Joshi: In gujarat many grandma gives dhrut bhrast haritaki in 1to 2 stroke rubbing on stone with water in child.
Compiled by - Dr. Dhruti Kagrana 

DMT and Ghee #Ayurveda

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All views shared here are only for knowledge. This information doesn’t have any scientific validation. Various doctors and non-medicos have shared their views and experiences in this discussion. Please do not try any of the suggestions described here, without prior consult from your regular, qualified doctor. Dr. Prerak Shah and no other person is responsible for any unwanted effects, side effects or contra-indications in your health. Thank you.
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Next topic for discussion: DMT and Ghee
Dr. Madhuri Patil: Cows ghee is equated with DMT or spirit molecule..
Ghrut increaess Oujas and Snehbhaav. Satva gun vruddhi. But which
kind of intelligence is related with wholly Satva gun Vruddhi Satya
Budhhi of Charak. Mentioned in Purush Vichay ch. Sha sthan. why
LokPurush Saamya siddhant  knowledge is important.Medha is associated  with Pitta
Pitta is Agni + Jal mahabhut.Sushrut Sha sthan
Agni ~rajo satva bahul
Jal~ tamo satva bahul.Pittadhara kala sa eva majjadhara kala.
Majja Dhaatu.Anything that enhances pitta and majja is Medhya.So all 3 with Satva gun major not just SatyaBuddhi which is wholly Satva ~Aakash ~Satvabahul Sushrut sha.
Croatia Branko Markovic: Very interesting! How do you correlate DMT with ghee? What is amount of ghee for daily consumption?
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Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Ghrut. Cows. Increses Satva gun, and
DMT.. does same .. spirituality is Satva gun vruddhi.
Some chemicals short cuts, short trips but if mind is not in control the
trip is not spiritually enlightening but fearful like a nightmare. just 
relationship with Satva Guna vruddhi which is SatChitAanand.
Anandamide is definitely not a Medhya dravya.. just experiences with
different kinds of perceptions.
My point is Medhya dravyas Increase Triguna with Satva more in
control by Rajas and tamas in balance countering each other to perfect
Balance. If Mind is ok. Then Dhi Dhruti and Smruti are perfectly in
balance. Dhi is Buddhi or Wisdom Dhruti is Retention power of mind.
Smruti is Retrival of knowledge  from repisitory of it(Aatma) at most
appropriate Kaal Or Time. Smruti is always in context with Kaal a dravya
among 9.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari:
Tryptamine. Dmt connection  with ghrut. Majja dhaatu stores.
Croatia Branko Markovic:  Is it not DMT released by spiritual
experience? Ghee or cow can trigger satva Guna but for higher
experience which DMT is contributed there should be profound
spiritual experience. Intense Dhyana or prayer or just mercy of
almighty. Or your point is that ghee is “opening” possibility for
triggering DMT via satva guna?
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Yes. Thats my hypothesis based on
Ayurveda basic principles related to DravyaGuna vijnaan. And Yogic
Philosophy. And The development of SatyaBuddhi as described in
Charak Samhita SharirSthan 5th chapter on PurushVichay.
Charak S , Sushrut S.. hv already written but  Contextual knowledge we
r yet to decipher on the lines of current scientific researches or thinking. Physiological actions. Due to Charya or Dravyas. Difference is only wrt Time. Short time or long standing.
Croatia Branko Markovic: Very interested! Did you come across any other plant or substance in Ayurveda related to realising DMT? Or better question is: is there any substances which is breaking down DMT? And what other substances accept ghee are possessing DMT?
Student Shail H: What is DMT?
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari:
Croatia Branko Markovic: It is also very possible that DMT is closely related with mystical Soma plant
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Not yet fully. Still learning this aspect wrt Spiritual health as per Brihattrayi. Yes. It has been suggested. But extinct now. Yoga is a Charya. Which faciliitates this state of consciousness.
Croatia Branko Markovic: Basically it is spiritual molecule that is releasing spiritual or supernatural experiences.. it is said that is released during death even and do to that people are seeing white lights or some other similar experiences. Please share more of your knowledge and correlation of DMT with yoga and ayurveda. How to increase satva guna and how release DMT? This is very useful to all patient to mental issues and it is very useful to common man as well to people who practice yoga etc
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Will try to put in text my understanding.
Yoga is a Charya or  cheshta best suited for psychological imbalances.
DhiDhairyaAatmadi vijaanam manodosh aushdham param. Ashtang Sangrah 1.49. Meaning Wisdom. Retention of senses or mindfully appropriate conjuction with senses and special knowledge of Aatmaadi (Aatma, Dik, Kaal) is best medicine for Manodosh. Considering this and Majja, pitta (Snehbhav due to Jal mahabhut in pitta)  ghrut ojus simlar dravyas. Vruddhikar and ekikar.  Increase each other and aggregate eachother. Thereby Medhya By Charya or Actions. Trptamines,  precursor to Dmt, Naturally produced by pineal glands as neurotransmitters. Calcification of pineal gland causes disruption in natural production  which may b a cause of depression or Tamas abandance. Tamas is Kashay and katu . Antidote to this is Snigdh Madhur Ghrut to reduce Tamas. Reduction of tamas ~ increase in Rajas... Which if channelised properly in proper direction by Yoga can lead to Satva gun vruddhi. Ghrut is best for pitta majja too therfore best Medhya dravya. Ghrut contains Trptamines too. Now this thinking is based on Basic siddhants of Ayurved. How to proove by current research methodology is still under consideration.
Gary Yuen: Any opinions of some that have tried to identify soma as a mushroom? It's said descriptions lack mention of roots, stems or seeds so some think it is mushroom.
DMT has been found in kapikacchu. Maybe some have experiences with that?
Croatia Branko Markovic: Hm was giving large doses of kapikacchu but people didn’t report any super experiences. Maybe it should be taken in some combination to activate DMT? Have one question regarding swarna.. We have colloidal nano gold (around 15nm in size), concentration is 100ppm (100mg per liter). What would be best daily doses? And what do you think about the quality and efficiency of this swarna formulation.
Gary Yuen: I don't know. It seems some cultures smoke it and that might be worth a try.  Does anyone have PDFs of translations by PV Sharma? I could find only Caraka.
Dr. Satish Panda: Soory,not as per charak or sushrut. DMT is something else. Satwa is more more genetic and less acquired. Ghree not directly helpful in enhancing satwa.
वातपित्तविषोन्मादशोषालक्ष्मीज्वरापहम् ||२३१||
सर्वस्नेहोत्तमं शीतं मधुरं रसपाकयोः|
सहस्रवीर्यं विधिभिर्घृतं कर्मसहस्रकृत्||२३२||
योनिकर्णशिरःशूलं घृतं जीर्णमपोहति||२३३||
सर्पींष्यजावि महिषीक्षीरवत् स्वानि निर्दिशेत्|२३४|
Dr. Madhuri Patil: Without Satvsgun vruddhi. How ghrut works in all these conditions. Ksheer Ghrut  abhya also rasayanam. A. S.
Daily use of milk and ghrut is Rasayan.
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: Yes And anubhav jany dnyan smruti ...So we can acquired by pathan..
Dr. R Prathiban: There can be many foods which may increase satwa guna, so all can be equavated with DMT?
Vd Mahavurya Dasa: Samatva in smriti.bhudhi.medha.oja. Considered satva..(even it's increases)
Dr. Satish Panda: Rasayan aim is getting good qualities of dhatu or tissues. Satwik food can only control the satwik guna which individual carried from birth some extend he or she enhanc this guna by satvriita,yogic kriya,achar rasayan etc.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Satvs guna.. vruddhikar Food. Except ghrut. I hvnt seen. Rajogun vruddhikar dravyas May mimic  Like  cannabiss. But it is  not a satva gun vruddhikar dravya. Satva Aakashiya dravya (Sushrut) Rajas Vayviya dravyas. Tamas Paarthiv dravys.. Thats why minerals like fe au ag etc are under Process of Amrutikaran b4 they can b used as medicines. Yes Samatva balance of triguna If Medhya effect is to be.
Vd Mahavurya Dasa: As per sanyasopanishad. Tsarva prayatnena ghruthadhinvarjayetu. It's increases satva guna. reaction s From d satkarmas. It's indicates ghrita increases satva.
Dr. Satish Panda: The primary effect of DMT is the experience of intense hallucinations that alter the individual's perception of the world around them. The main effect of DMT is psychological, with intense visual and auditory hallucinations, euphoria, and an altered sense of space, body, and time. Many users describe profound, life-changing experiences such as visiting other worlds, talking with alien entities known as "DMT elves" or "machine elves," and total shifts in the perception of identity and reality.This side effects is not present in satwa guna. So,we can't compare this DMT with satwa guna.
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: Dugdh ..oja gun samaya Madya ...Oja viparit gun Oja ..stav oja ashrya ...Ref charak madatya chi 24 /34
Dr. Satish Panda: Here because of madatyay,satwa guna decline,to enhance this charak advise to take such food which enhance satwa.
That satwa will enhance which he/she lost because of madatyay.
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: So food can enhances satava gun ..thats my point sir
Dr. Satish Panda: Rest part satwa will enhance by others spiritual kriya.
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: Yes agree Dhyan dharna Samadhi Etc are definitely increases satava gun .
Dr. Satish Panda: Yes to some extent, which is lost.
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: Why lost Because of guna That hampers oja and satva. So madya mans are forbidden for yogi ...
Dr. Satish Panda: Increase in raja and Tama Guna decreases satwa Guna. Madya in yuktikrita is amrit tulya. Madatyay (alcoholism)
is visa tulya.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: The difference is DMT is vikaasi and Vyavayi.  Ghrut is not , sthir and snigdha . Also ghrut is not Sukshma strotogami so Lavan is always recommended with Sneh. But effect on Satva guna which is Aakashiya is more by DMT than by Ghrut. Ghrut induces  Compassion , Anukampa. Jaliya bhava. The variations with DMT experiences are due to the Rajas or tamas etc manas prakruti.
Ghrut too much Causes vyapad too..
In Saam pitta Ghrut is always given which is Siddhha not Achha snehpaan. Rasayan given only after Shodhan. The gradients in  workings of dmt and ghrut. Crudest form and purest form.
What is Samadhi avastha? How 8 siddhis are developed ? If we r to think about Medhya effect. What explains the burtst of creativity of singers and musicians who experiment with such short acting dravyas.?
Modafinil .. OTC drug in India,  For increasing concentration. Many students use at time of exams. Memory booster..
How to explain these kind of  experiences... Definately not Satva gun vruddhi.. But Raj and Tam balancing short term...Medhavi effect.
Yes , same goes for Anna or Aahar  dravya too. Yuktikrut upyog
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: Ghrit pitta anilhar ras shukra ojasa hitam...
Oja and satva  gun ...Ashrya So ghrita balance or increases Satva gun
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Satvasaarata. How to clinically get it correct. But we observe. Without Satvasasrata.. too. People are intelligent. Or Medhavi.
Vd Mahavurya agriculture depending upon chemicals. Naturally even ghee which produced from HF or hybrid create tamo.
Dr. Ravibhusan S Sonawale: Yes stavaj bhav ,Also important..During conception ...matruj pitruj bhav etc. Thats genetic thing .. So many people are madhavi also Because of jati praskata prakruti  Many things depends for medhavi people ..
Vd. Hardik bhatt: Can we compare ojus...... satva .. DMT..
Dr. Siva Kumar: Bala samskaras also show impacts life long medhya effect on child
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: Garbha Sanskar also has effect on memory and concentration. The most difficult things can be taught in womb
Dr. Madhuri Patil: Very comprehensive, whole topic is covered. Medhya effect on garbha. Wholistic wellbeing.
Gary Yuen: It's stated as such in Caraka, and I think it is true. The presence of atman in an individual makes someone capable of being called a person (purusa), and capable of intelligence, knowledge, memory, and health. To understand karma, of an individual or a culture, I think it is needed to understand all the yugas and that we live in adharma, kali yug. To see rasas and tamas, to understand all things, if one is mistreated, sees a lack of good in the world, to meditate on all things and their cause, brings presence of mind and memory. In Caraka Ci 9.92/93, I think that is the meaning of to everyday perform puja to Siva, and that overcomes any worry of unmada. In the Bhagavata purana, it's said whenever one is walking, sitting, or eating, they see the whole universe. So far, my favorite mantra comes from Manduka Upanisad 1-2, The past, the present, and the future—all that is simply OM; and whatever else that is beyond the three times, that also is simply OM—for this brahman is the Whole. Hari Om. Om-ity-etad-aksharam-idam sarvam, tasyopavyakhyanam bhutam bhavad bhavishyaditi sarvam-omkara eva. Yaccanyat trikalatitam tadapy omkara eva
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: Many theories over it. But in my opinion all these work only when your pronunciation is okay. Bcoz all it works only on vibrations, which is generated in body by the words. By these vibrations, cells gets positive energy and they will work more effectively.
Gary Yuen: Agree sound is very important but pronunciation even if incorrect should have some positive effect. Notice how in English and languages from Northern places that are very hold cave harsh sounds, phonemes, and abrupt stops. I think it is primary word suffixings, their endings, that have the greatest physiological effect. Notice the term Om, but all terms in sanskrit, how they link together, resonate and linger in the body. That should have some effect even if pronunciation is not perfect.
Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: When we are seeing properties of medhya dravya we will find different qualities. Some are shita(cold) like sankhpushpi, yastimadhu, kushmanda etc. While some are usna like vacha,jyotishmati etc. Some are anushna shita like bhrami etc. As per my mind All have different work. Like according to modern science human memory has three stages
1)encoding( process to understand and store in brain)
2)storage(to keep the things in brain for longer time)
3) recall( when necessary make the data available)
When problem is with memory or medha where the problem is in these three stages should be detected ans should be treated accordingly
all medhya is not medhya for all people but drugs should be choosen wisely
Gary Yuen: We are not speaking in Vedic ways. I am curious about as they say the encoding process of memory. Caraka Vi.3.24 describes physical and mental qualities of people during the age of krtayuga, before disease. Those are clues to those with developed minds and bodies. Are there Vedic texts that describe the mental process and might aid in developing memory? Jnana, and jnanasamtana which is described by Abhinvagupta as the suite of cognitions, such as when we say there is a tree in this forest (athāpi śarīrātiriktaṃ, tad api jñānasantānamātram atra vane vṛkṣa iti yathā), is the process of cognition of individual things within the whole (brahma) but there are probably texts that describe how to develop manas, jnana, buddhi, medhya, etc.
Dr. V B. Maheshwari: True saying Every medicine is having different quality and dosha impact. We can't use every drug to every individual.


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