Wednesday, February 22, 2017

#Ayurvedic management of Runny nose.....

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Ayulink: First we will discuss Acute treatment of runny nose.
Dr.Ganesh Ramdasi: Runny nose can be avoid by cow ghrut daily two drops each nostril- its good one result.
Ayulink: I am not sure, we have any decongestant, which can stop runny nose in few minutes but sometimes Nag gutika - 1 tablet gives me fast result. we can say like in 30-40 min. But Nag bhasma is heavy metal and can produce severe side effects. so I am not using it often.
Vd. Khyati Jariwala: Nasya of castor oil gives magical result. 2 drops in both nostrils.
Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: Tribhuvankeerti gives result in almost stat dose BUT strictly in nirama awastha Or else patient gets headache. I use 2 tabs of Tribhuvankeerti 3 times just for one day (after 4 days of Pratishyay ).
Vd. sandeep Ahirkar: Laxmi vilas naradiya also very helpful in acute running nose. Guda adrak swaras nasya.
USA Gary Yuen: What is runny nose? Is it excess kapha? Sometimes when performing jala neti, I notice more runniness. Seems to Belo quickly evacuate.
Dr. Kiran Prajapati: Dry ginger powder mixed with jaggery taken tid,  Laxmi vilas naradiya also helpful, Few drops Fresh neem leaves juice in both nostrils.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Runny nose or rhinitis. Ajwain dhumpaan. Steam inhalation  with few drops of  eucalyptus oil in dashmool kashay. Jal Neti or nasal irrigation with warm salt+haridra  water. Nasya with Vacha oil.
Anand Javeri: To avoid runny nose, we should have good immune power.
Dr. Samir Suneri: This time we can inhale 2 drop of halin capsule  (nagarjun pharmaceuticals).
Dr. Manju Mishra: Chitrak Haritaki, Nasya of castor oil, vasant malti rasa. Jal neti of salt water is v effective- steam inhalation- Pranayama.
USA Irene CCA: As turmeric is immuno modulator and acts as anti microbial, running nose cause by allergic reactions is pacified effectively. Dry ginger fine powder mixed with rock salt taken 3-4 times a day.
Vd. Nayanbhai Patel: I can use ice cub rub frontal bone in head for runny nose & i got result in few minutes for few hours( 2-3 hours).
Ayulink: Let's suggest practical management of ACUTE pratishyay (with sneezing, runny nose and sinusitis) for immediate relief.
Vd. Gurumahantesh: For acute one I advise lepa of shunthi and jaiphal. Proceeded by mukha greeva abhyanga followed by steam inhalation.
Vd. sandeep Ahirkar: Paste of rasnadi churna mix with lime juice should be applied on bregma point can be useful for acute rhinitis.
Dr. Lokesh Mehta: Mahasudarshan ghanvati gives good result in allergic rhinitis.
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: Histatin of Kerala Ayurved, with tribhuvan Kirti Ras, Sunthi lepa and application of hot dry sunthi powder over scalp And nidan parivarjan.
Dr. Jyoti Yagnik: Laxmivilasras 2bd, kafketu 2bd, Shadbindu tail for nasya. Sunth+ haldi+ gud in morning. Khadiradivati also useful.
Vd. Vidhi M. Shukla: When there is running nose, sneezing take 2 marich,  crush it and boil it in 2 cup water.  Reduce water to half cup. Add one spoon honey in little warm kwatha  And drink it. Within 20 min. 50 % relief will be there. I have used it many times.
Pranav dalwadi: Cap. Nilsin (phyto) 1 Bd, Tab laxmivilas 2 bd with Nagarvel pan pasted with mari powder and honey.
USA Gary Yuen: Castor may also be an overall good nasya oil.
Vd. Khyati Jariwala: If castor oil is little bit warm, Than it will work faster.
Dr.Prashant Pawar : Is castor oil dose cause irritation or allergic reaction?
Vd. Kirti: Is there irritation or burning in throat occur after castor oil nasya
Dr. Dayanand Bothre: No there is no burning. But I didn't use warm. Don't know about warm oil.But it seems temporary, Symptoms reappear after 1 hr.
Ayulink: Now discuss on jirna pratishyay(chronic) cases.Just share your practical tips for CHRONIC cases.
Dr. Rinku Shah: Langhan, ushnodak,chandramruta rasa,dwatridasang quath.
Dr.Amit Prakash Jain: Nrupativallabh rasa, Chitrak haritaki avleha, Dushivishari  agad. Tapyadi loha+suwarnamakshik bhasma+astimajjapachak. Chitrakadi vati, raspachak kwath, Haridradi gana, Vachadi gana.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Chronic-  panchkarm esp. vaman: if too much kapha/ mucous, virechan: if too much coughing  but no expectoration of mucous as per prakruti.
Vd. Hardik bhatt, Idar: Vardhman pippli , good for jirn prstishyay
Dr Dipak Shirude: When 'Pratishyaay' turns chronic, it can be denoted as 'Peenas' ...
One has to be aware that the initiating and triggering factor in this ailment is always 'Kapha' but as the disease remains untreated or wrongly treated, the activity of 'Vaat' shows it's dominance. It further makes the 'Strotus' anatomy disturbed. patient's nasal septum, turbinate etc. change their shapes .. possibility of obstructive lesion can be noticed. When you have ruled out all these things, one can start to search the causes of disease. They are generally : Exposure of face to airflow like sleeping under a fast fan or cool airflow or while journey sitting at an open window ! Drinking any kind of liquid (even water) after Sunset is always observed in such patients ! Continuous overhead bath or regular use of showers in bathroom ! Consumption of Food that has nil nutritious value and contains too much artificial ingredients and preservatives ! Frequent use of perfumes and other cosmetics is also a worsening factor ! One who is always careless about his or her health care gradually looses immunity and falls prey to such diseases !  So after proper discussion with patient, a Vaidya can advice do's and don't and further decide the way of treatment. Obviously Nasya is a great therapy in this situation. It can nullify the aggravated 'Kapha' and 'Vaat' alongwith repairing and strengthening of nasal mucosa and even other structures. But the procedure should be followed scientifically. Each and every step must be perfect with pre and post procedures. As per patient's constitution and season outside one should go for all other remaining 4 Panchkarma procedures but that may not be compulsory. Symptomatic treatment cures the recurring symptoms. Some proprietary products suggested as anti-allergic are proving successful. Classical combinations like Haridrakhand, Sukshma Trifala etc. can be on dias. The concluding and the  most important treatment is for non recurrence i.e. 'Rasayana Chikitsa' ..  A wise Vaidya must find proper time to start this last but not least part of treatment in 'Jeerna Pratishyaay' ... I think there is no need to put exact names of the medicines useful for this purpose. Step by step plan of treatment can surely relieve this disease !!
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Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Vacha 2 parts + 1Part Shunthi+ Kapur local lep on sinuses Nose forehead. Warm Ajmoda pottali clears nasal blockage instantly.
LVG Shriram Gandhi: Sitopaladi with real vanshlochan can reduce running nose in a day.
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Real vanshlochan means- Matra?
LVG Shriram Gandhi: From bambu , generally in market synthetic siligate is available.
Vd. Bhavdeep Ganatra: I suggest 2 tab of Haritaki with 75% Boiled water every 2 hours. Within 6 hours or so significant relief is noticed. Concept of Niraamikaran & Langhan Upkram is performed through this. If possible Facial steam(Vapor) of Ajwayeen +Water for 10 minutes on whole Urdhvajatrugat Pradesh every 2 hours is more friendly in associated symptoms like headache & dullness.
Vd.Avinash Chougule: Combination of sitopaladi, mansapachak yog n laximivilas Ras with Madhu gives good result
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Why manspachak???
Vd.Avinash Chougule: Nasagat mala is mala of Masa dhatu. Mansapachak helps in mansa dhtu agni vardhan.
Tilak Raj Gujrani: Mine views in running nose are: If it is vataj / kaphaj, then hot soups & medicines and if pittaj ( hot or burning nasal discharge ), then Luke warm drinks. Keep the body well hydrated with more liquids. Boil ginger, pinch of black pepper powder in water for 5-10 minutes, pour in cup, add honey and juice of half lemon. Sip it like tea. Better to take about 2-3 gm turmeric with it. It can be taken 2 or 3 times in a day. Put 5 or 6 drops of ghee on hot plate - add a pinch of turmeric. Inhale steam / vapours.
Ayulink: Let's suggest practical management of ACUTE pratishyay (with sneezing, runny nose and sinusitis) for immediate relief.
Dr Chirag Vyas: For immediate relief- Trikatu churna 1/2 tsf with warm water, Cap Nilsin 2-2-2 bef food, Cap. Step 2-2'-2 after food. Protection of head by using wollen cap/ scap/ muflar is must.. Tulsi sadhita ushna jala
Dr. Shubhanda Gunjal: Tab. Naag guti bd gives instant results...
Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: अक्षि कुक्षी भवा रोगा प्रतिश्याय व्रण ज्वराः।
                   पंचेते पञ्च रात्रेण उपशमयन्ते केवल लंघनात।
Means disease caused in eye,abdomen,comon cold,wound and fever these 5 disease can be cured by only langhnam(fasting) or light diet for 5 days. In management of acute rhinitis langhnam plays major role.
Dr Ganesh pawara.: Sitopaladi churn and laxmivilas ras 4tds And nebulize with hot water..
Dr. Jayshree Y. Mahajan: pts would happy to take Dupan with that way. I give bajara flower and ajwain dupan and also hot water nebulization for connection.
Tilak Raj Gujrani: Crush 4-5 peeled garlic cloves and inhale its fragrence. It decrease inflammation of nasal mucosa. Tab. Septilin 2 bd Tab. Laxmivilas ras 2 bd
Vd. Bharati  S. Deshmukh: Lagu  sutshekhar,  l.vi., & arogyawardhini each 1--1 tab , 4 times,  vyano,  gives  nice  result. Pachan& aap mahabhut shoshan. Advice less wate intake.
Dr.Anagha Bhalerao: what exactly we have to do in Aap mahabhut shoshan? Do u mean eating puffed rice or kala chana Or puffed rajgeera?
Vd. Bharati  S. Deshmukh: Lagu  sut - gairik & suntha. Which  Is pruthavi & agni  mahabhut  pradhan,  & dry meal, chana  is  useful  in it.
Vd Daxa Patel: I use Nag guti 2bd and laxmivilas ras 2tds with inhalation of sunthi and ajmod 3-4times/day. Good result.
Vd. Bharati  S. Deshmukh: But nag guti should carefully or not use in pittaj.
Dr.Anagha Bhalerao: nag guti is advised in kafaj pratishay
Dr. Anup Torane: Laxmi Vilas 2 vyanodan, Tribhuvan kirti 2 vyanodan, Pathyadi vati 2 vyanodan . Application of vacha vishwa n bhimseni karpur  with lukewarm water nasal congestion reduces within 5 minute. Dhupan with vacha churna.
Dr. Supratim Bir:  Along with dhumpaan with ghrita haridra varti.
Tilak Raj Gujrani: With running nose and increased respiration causing dehydration, should more water be not taken ?
Vd. Shrinidhi: In case of acute rhinitis Equal quantity of guda and maricha taken in a dose of 2 gm muhur muhur  prayoga  gives satisfactory results in my practice.
Dr.Amal P Joseph: I use kaphakethu rasa with ardraka swarasa and vyoshadi vataka in acute condition got very good result.
Dr. Ruchita Kadgi: Is this combination taken with honey or lukewarm water
Ayulink: Now discuss on jirna pratishyay(chronic) cases.Just share your practical tips for CHRONIC cases.
Tilak Raj Gujrani:
1. Chitrak haritki 100 gm + Haridra khand 100 gm
Mix and take 5 gm bd with Luke warm water.
2. Sitopladi churan 60 gm + Abhrak bhasm shatputi 2.5 gm.  One dose bd with honey
 3. Tab. Septilin 2 bd
4. Tab. Laxmivilas ras 2 bd
5. Anutailam as nasya
Ahaar vihaar as per dosha of patient / disease.
Dr. Chirag: In chronic cases
1. Vasa granules 1tsf by Boling with water
2. Laxmi Vilas rasa 2-2
3. Tab immunocin 2-2
4. Tab bresol 2-2
5. Nasya regularly both
Samana and sodhana
6. Avoid direct air contact (nirvata sthana)
7. Not only ears but also face skin
8. Avoid milk and milk products as far as possible
Vd Raksha Shukla: I use pathyadi kwath,tab.laxmivilas,cap nilsin,tab dekofcin .these com.give good results
Dr. Shantanandkumar: Cap Rhinagr
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          Compiled by: Vd. Dhruti Kagrana


Monday, February 13, 2017

Management of #muscular pain with #ayurveda

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Next topic of discussion :- Management of #muscular pain with #ayurveda
Ayulink: We are discussing ACUTE MUSCULAR PAIN - of any origin. We are trying to find out any alternate of modern painkillers or NSAIDS. In chronic condition, we will discuss about different pain and its management at length at moment, please focus on ACUTE condition.  (Please remember, there is no 100% Pain management possible in the world......In chronic conditions, patient would like to find out more SAFE, CHEAPER, FASTER options and then they come to Ayurveda......but still in acute condition, very few would believe in ayurveda and consult an ayurveda doctor. Today's point of discussion is more focused on that aspect. By chance an ayurveda doctor gets an patient with acute muscular pain, what will be his options? Thnx).
Vd. Sandeep J. Prasad: Local snehan and swedan is very effective in muscular pain. Vat shamak kwath likes rasna saptak kwath, Dashmool kwath internally.
Dr. Sushant Patil: Yogaraj Guggul is also useful with ashwagandha kwath in muscle pain.
Dr. Sachinkumar Jinture: Erandmul best Use in swedan.
Anand Javeri: Physiotherapy helps to a great extent. Plus, one should consume lots of water & remain well hydrated. Should consume foods rich in magnesium, phosphorus, potassium, protein, calcium and iron. Also amino acids.
Dr.Prashant Pawar  Nasik: Til tail for local snehan, swedan with dashmul . Til tail matrabasti. Mahawatvidhwansa rasa 2-2,Yograj guggul 2-2.
Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: Nirgundi patra pinda sweda.
Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Try to understand the basic of muscular pain. Differential diagnosis first then according to problems give suggestions. Many times we do mistake that any pain related to vat but it's complex with cough pitta Angeles neurological and fibromyalgia - Spinal disorders. Non medicoes without understand please don't apply otherwise it's produced compliance.
Vd. Sandeep J. Prasad: In ayurveda where pain is there it means vata is there it may be kapha and pitaanuband. But primary treatment will be vat samak.
Dr. Bhadresh Naik: I agree but vatshamak does not increase Pitta or kapha and neurological pain we have to think different. Comparison must be relieved.
Vd.manasi Kulkarni: Muscle Pain- Sanehana, Swedana, Dashmularistam, Mahayograja Guggulu, Matrabasti, Agnikarma.
Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Santtarpan and aptarpan must be considered in line of treatment.
Dr. Neha P. Bhatt: Agnikarma can give instant relief!
Vd. Avni Kaneria: Nirgundi patra-pind swed or locally nadi swed is effective..
Dr. J. T. Contractor: Well there could be serum uric acid as well, a pt complaining about acute pain in muscles, did no stone left unturned as far any paths concerned, was suggested colchicine Chinese herb (chop chini) in a week's time pt found complete relief, then was asked to monitor serum uric acid time to time with a note to avoid non veg food, fatty oils & heavy to digest pulses, so far pt did not require Zyloric ( xyloric).
Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: Actually in acute condition, we dont have time / habit of thinking of samprapti. In such condition we need to treat it as soon as possible and get rid of lakshana. So lakshanik chikitsa is applied in general. waiting for very exciting knowledge from you.. Thnx.
Vd. Gurumahantesh: In muscular pain I use karaskara lepa followed by infrared light therapy, it gives quick results within 3 days.
Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: karaskar lepa from which pharmacy?
Vd. Gurumahantesh: Not available from any pharmacy. Ref sahasra yoga.
Ayulink: - Vd. Bhvaesh Modh:
It is unquestionable truth that Dashmula preparation is best for “Shulprashman”, there are many market preparations of Dashmula available, but how many of them prepared according to the standards set by pharmacopoeia is still questionable.
Basti of Dashmul Kwath is best for all kinds of ‘Shotha’ & ‘Shula’.
The next available herb is Guggulu. - Sinhnad, Rasanadi etc are guggulu preparations readily available in market, but again Quality and Quantity of ingredients, in terms of reliability of source, is questionable as in Dashmula.
It’s prescribed in “sabarkantha ni vanaspati”, written by Raj vaidya shree Rasiklal Jethalal Parikh, to consume guggulu (in naturally available raw form) with warm water and results of this experiment are extraordinary/miraculous.
Guggulu is gum or exudates derived from Neem, Baval, Kher/Khadir, Shallaki, Dhav kind of trees.
Many householders use gum collected from wild Babul & Kher trees, without any purification process, in various feast winter recipes. However, it never caused any side-effect on a human body so far.
Shallaki is widely marketed as a good Shul eradicator.
Dashmul preparation and Guggulu - if are well checked and trustworthy, than it can be used for Kwatha preparation or Basti treatment or for internal use.
Vd. Bhavesh Thakkar: Bala tail internally and externally is excellent vata shamana hence has immediate pain killing effect. So is erand sneha also sunthi can combined with eranda. Guggulu in large quantity gives excellent shula prashamana effect. I make Guggulu preparations on my own and use 1gm dose. 2 or 3 times in a day.  I use my own make of simhanada guglu which is excellent in both shula and sotha prashamana.
Dr. Jaya Sambhus: Aacharya charak mentioned angamard prashaman gana . I always use this gana with dashmool internally  n local application of lepa containing vacha kosth devadar gairik guggul
Shri Minoo parabia: Guggulu is oleoresin from Commiphora wightii. Others are  gums.Gum is a degradation product of cellulose, produced only when a plant is injured. Does work as potent pain reliever.
Dr. Jaya Sambhus: Best n instant pain reliever is viddh karma . It helps for 2-3 hours only but faster. Next is agnikarma which is faster n permanent also But pts. dislike this procedure.
Dr. Dilip Pithiya: Snehan with Vatshamak oil like Nirgundi Tail, mahanarayan tail , Mash tail, Bala tail, Tila tail, Lasun Siddh Tail etc.. Swedan with Nadi Swed. Snehan + Swedan Gives good result.
Vd. Khyati Jariwala: Chadraprabhavati 2 TDS is effective in muscular pain.
Anand Javeri: what kind of muscular pain does chandraprabhavati help?
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: i think, if pain is due to Dhatushaithilya janya, esp. post partum, chadraprabha v. being dhatusanghatkar, works. no acute relief but over a period of time.
Dr. Rinku Shah: Nagod+Sallaki works excellent on acute pain. Dashmool steam is also good for pain relivered abhyang with Mahanarayan tailam
Ayulink: Let's share now management of chronic Muscular pain. (no other kind of pain please. Pain in Snayu or mamsa, muscle-ligaments only. For pain in joint and other origin, we will discuss later.)
Anand Javeri: Before 2 years, i came to know 1 thing. Wrap carom seeds in a cloth, keep it in a vessel and put the vessel on stove. When the vessel becomes hot, put off the stove. Immediately, remove carom seeds from the cloth & dab the cloth on the ailing area. It gives relief. does this really work? Haven't ever tried. Just heard about it.
Exi Kir Moo: Muscular happens mainly due to muscle pull or stress or injury to muscle. So, first we should give rest to the affected muscle. For instant relief apply Balm on muscle. Heat pad or hot water bag is also useful.
Gufic Shilpaben: Sallaki plus of Gufic is having the combination of Nagod  and sallaki it gives good result
Shri Minoo parabia: I have found Aswagandha and Ekangvirras 2x3 each effective on muscular pain. Hot fomentation gives temporary relief.
Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: In fibromyalgia deep muscle relaxation (DMR) method works, also basti gives result. In kaphavrutta condition gomutra haritaki gives immediate effect.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: In chronic muscular pain, snehan swedan , local oil  bastis like jaanu basti, kati basti, hrudyabasti, manyabasti.  oils used as per prakruti and doshanubandha. Narayan oil, Mahanarayan, sahachar oil, sainshav oil. aamahj conditions vishgarbha oil, or Nirgundi-erand siddha sasame oil. Viddha or viddhagni chikitsa  gives short term pain relief and reduces frequency or episodes of pain.
Dr.sujata Kadam: Deep muscle relaxation-  Can you please explain  If possible.
Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: DMR- in lying down position with closed eyes we have to ask pt to concentrate on certain muscle point then gradually relax.
Shri Minoo parabia: Yes. It is obtained through boiling slaughter house waste.
--------------------------------------------------- Ayulink 2 --------------------------------------------------------Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Trayodashang 1 tds relieves muscular pain. I also use Triphala Guggulu 3 stat. My Sir used to give Tab. Trayodashang 6 tablets for 2 times a day. Panchatikt ghrut  Guggulu when pittaj samprapti is present.
Dr. Nahida Tarannum: I usually give himcospaz  capsules for vague nonspecific abdominal pain like menstrual pain gas pain and my patients feel relieved after sometime. Ya symptomatic treatment sometimes works. In Ayurveda ajamoda, Guggulu,  peppermint are a few pain relieving herbs. Externally Karpura Tailam, Hingu triguna Tailam  etc works.
Dr. Rahul Doke: Normally used medicines in Acute muscular pain like sprain in back, etc(except abdominal pain) Cap narvi plus 1 stat +  Tab. Neurotone 1 stat followed by 1 cap Narvi plus after 1 hour if required. With warm water or honey or warm milk. Apply some Ayurvedic oil locally & rest for a hour.
Dr. Chirag: In acute condition of pain due to  A) Rheumatism or amaj disorder *Langhanam and swedanam* Gives very good pain relief acutely. Sunthi Lepa (anywhere) and/or Intake of sunthi with jaggery and ghee relives acute pains. B) many a time acute abdominal pain (ruling out the underlying cause) is released by simple cupping of oil lamp  Or *mahasankhvati* in dosage of 10-12 tabs with cap himcospaz/ Castro laxim. With exercise for muscle strengthening. Trayodashanga/Sinhanad gugulu is also useful.
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: If we think abt Panchakrm then Anuwasan Basti of Sahacharadi 30+Hingutrigun 20 ml works well.
Dr. Santosh Mali: In acute condition i  use vidha karma like acupuncture and also agnikarma.
Dr. Jayshree Y. Mahajan: For acute pain I use rasnasaptak churn 1/2 sp tds gives instant pain  relief. I  use it After exertion too. Gives result as pain killer drug.
Dr. Shantanandkumar: Tab rumawin and pain  nivaran  churna  act as best analgesic.
Ayulink: Let's share now management of chronic Muscular pain. (no other kind of pain please. Pain in Snayu or mamsa, muscle-ligaments only. For pain in joint and other origin, we will discuss later.)
Dr. Gaurav Makan: Sallaki MR is good for muscle relaxation but it is contraindicated in women who are pregnant or trying to conceive
Vd. Krutika Suhas Chaudhary: Any type of muscular pain or pain due to appendix jalauka or raktamokshan works very great....and in premenstrual spasm or spasm due to trakking etc...matrabasti is very effective.. In acute condition of pain..vata and rakta involvement can be considered..and accordingly we can have excellent result In pain of strain or Frozen shoulder...use of swedan with salt works very nicely.
Ayulink: Anybody has tried godanti on muscular pain?
Pranav Shah Vd.: Haratala bhasma has excellent result. With rsna panchak kwath- 125 mg BD  is the dose, Kwath dose is 20ml thrice a day. In Vata n kapha dominant dosha. When using in pitta dosha use chandraprabha or any other combination Or combine use of haratal godanti bhasma was also very useful. I m preparing all rasaushadhi by myself. For excellent result.
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Compiled by: Vd. Dhruti Kagrana




Friday, February 3, 2017

Management of shirahshul (headache)....by #Ayurveda of any type......

Views shared by several ayurveda professionals and non-ayurveda people in discussion group:
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Next topic of discussion:  Management of shirahshul (headache)....by #Ayurveda of any type.
Ayulink: First we start with acute condition.  Do we have any instant pain reliever? Like modern medicine?  Please share practical tips for shirahshul and let everybody know, how fast and how effective it is.
USA Gary Yuen: Can we also discuss cause?
Dr Smita Pimpley : Pathyadhi  kwath - In acute conditions it has given good results.
Vd. Khyati Jariwala: In acute condition I m giving migrahills tab 2 BD+ shirshuaadivajra Ras 2 BD. It relieves pain pain instantly.
Dr. Lokesh Mehta: Shirashooladivajra ras  2 tab of Dhootpapeshwar along with 1 gm of godanti bhasam gives good result.
Exi Kir Moo: My family members use warm pure 'Ghee'. For getting relief from headache, we lay down straight, put some drops of this 'Ghee' in both nostrils and keep body in lay down condition for a few minutes.
Dr. monaliben: Cephagrain tablets & Cephagrain nasal drops of Charak pharma. Give good results. we got good results with cow ghee.
Shri Minoo parabia: I support this as anubhut in my family too. Pujya Bapalalji recommended gud-sunthi nasya. Act very well. Pitta shamak regimen combined with nasya gives results.
Dr. Samir Suneri: As per my view We can use suchibhed {puncture by suchi} it's good results. We can use insulin needle and 5 to 10 stroke over the pain area. It's give instant results. Some time pt have sool due to increase of pitta at that time we can use pittasaman drug{pittasamak vati}.
Ayulink: I use combination of godanti bhasma and giloy satva - each 1 gram with water in acute condition. Usually it works in 30-40 min. But if needed can be repeated after every  hour till shirahshul subsides.
Vd. Akshata Swami: Godanti bhasma on shirashoola, how its action please anyone explain Pharmacology.
Dr Premsukh: Godanti bhasma 1gm before meal have good result.
Ayulink: According to my knowledge godanti is pitta- vata pacifier*. Also it works like anti-pyretic (like paracetamol). I use it in acute condition of fever too - same dose and same method. (*i may be wrong in this, but practically I have very good results).
Dr. Rinku Shah: I use godanti bhasma 1gm along with pathyadi kadha.
Dr.Prashant Pawar  Nasik: Godanti bhasma 1gm+1pedha(sweet pedha)- at morning.
Pathyadi kadha 10 to 14 ml morning-evening.
shirshooladi vajraras. plus goghrut nasya about 85 to 87%  patient gives response to this treatment.
Dr.Prashant Pawar : Some patient requires sadya virechan, along with agnikarma.
Vd. Kirti: Shirshul mei sunth+ karpur lep give instant relief My experience.
Dr. Sushant Patil: Kukumadi Ghrut : Nasya in  Shirshul gives best results
Dr. Manju Mishra: Tab  sumanta
Dr. J. T. Contractor: Headache means sleepless night & uncleared bowel, these result in headache in olden days we used to give a nice harmless laxative sonamukhi  Purgative before bed time next day no headache. This happens due to toxin(mal vish), which goes through blood to brain creating headache. But before this laxative process we used to apply dry zinger powder past on forehead specially right & left sides of the forehead where the veins carry the blood to brain, requesting all learned friends, pl avoid paracetamol as its untoward side effects on liver causes cirrhosis.
Dr. Jyoti Yagnik: Tab. Trifalavati 3 stat ; ajirnakantak 2 ; if pittadhikya-sutshekhar ras 2 & if kafadhikya -sudarshan ghanvati 2. After 1st dose ; This treatment continue for 2days.trifala bed time & other tablet 2bd or tds + diet control.
IPR Chhayaben: V used to keep paste prepared lots of salt n wheat flour on two sides of forehead. As salt have   characteristics of absorbing heat, it helps in reducing headache.
Dr. sarang Patil: Ela with Kadali(Banana) at brahma muhurta also works. 1 ela choorna with 1 riped banana at 4.30 to  5 o’ clock at morning should be taken.
Dr. J. T. Contractor: Instead taking powder zinger to make past please take zinger rhizome( full ) soaked in water every time & rub on stone ( ghasaro ) thus made fine past applied on forehead is more effective as penetration is faster
Vd.manasi Kulkarni: A patient of acute shirashul came to me,last week. Has taken pain killers, But no relief. I have done siravedh, Pathyadi kadha, Sutshekhar results within 1/2 hr. I think ,it is pittaj shirshul...
Dr.Prashant Pawar: How, when, which point siravedh is done?
Dr. Arvind Shahane: If there 'throbbing  pain ' Or pittaj shirahshul .Go for raktamokshan cubital vein or jugular vein. Choice of vein is painful side. Jugular vein raktamokshan is giving best result. For orally choice Suvarn sutshekhar matra no ghasaro.
Dr. Nitish Dubey: One of my patient of migraine. He is on medicines. Suddenly he comes with his mother who was anemic with hb 3.8% . I refer her for blood tansfusion and that person give 2 unit of blood. Now his problem of migraine is completely solve. No medication and completely fit. Can we correlate this event with raktamokshan.
Dr. Arvind Shahane: Yes blood donation is one type of raktamokshan.
Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Please don't relay on ready made prescription. First tray to understand the complaint of patients. Correlate with modern and arrived See differential diagnosis. Make arrived diagnosis Then make a plan of management.
Dr. Arvind Shahane: Differential diagnosis is compulsory -  
But instantly pain management also demanded.
Vd.pallavi Maharastra: Pt with c/o sheershul  Had the history of fasts for continuously 2 to 3 days. I diagnosed it as vat pittaj sheershul and gave her Tt - shatawari churn 10gm  + shauktik bhasm 246 mg +amrutasatwa2-3gm.  - 4-5times in a day and her pain subsided in one day. Another lady pt with c/o sheershul with amlaodgar then I gave her 2 laghusutshekar  tab in next 1/2hour her pain subsided . In this case use laghusutshekhar by thinking that gairik will do the shoshan Kary and sunth of pachan.
Vd.pallavi Maharastra: How does The both drawyas works?
Dr.rohit jain : Tab.shirsuladi vraj ras 1bd,tab.sarpgandh mishran 1bd ,local application with sunthi powder on forehead.
Vd.vikas Karanjekar: Nidan parivarjan should not be overlooked.
Dr. Jaya Sambhus: Shirsuladi vajr Ras 1 tab, Godanti 1 tab, Praval 1 tab. This formula works on each sirshul with any nasya. With this for instant results I always take help of below procedures  Vataj sirshul - basti , Pittaj - raktmokshan (jugular vein)  Kaphaj - lepa with vacha + sunthi + Kapur.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: In Ardhshihi,  Anubhut- Su.sutshekhar ras 125mg + Jawahar mohara pishti 500mg +
Pravalpishti muktayukta chandraputi 125mg. +cows ghrut 1tsp+ honey 2 tsp. twice with interval of 1 hr. Along with 2tabs of Pittashamak vati of Ayurved Rasshala. upshay within 1hr.45 mins.
Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Sutsekhar ras twice a day and In the morning Empty stomach ,Pathyadi  kwath. Cow ghee Nasya in Putrajaya condition. Shadhbindu oil Nasya in Sinusitis.
Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: In Pittaja shirasshool , shirodhara with coconut water and rose water works wonders. I have tried it even in acute attacks with very good results.
Vd. Heena Sanket: Mixing both together?
Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: Yes. More of coconut & less of rose water. Around 4:1 proportion.
Vd.pallavi Maharastra: In how much quantity we have to take it ? Can we use the same coconut water in the time period of shirodhara,  again and agaian?
Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: We take 10 tender coconuts at a time. Recycle same water for about 45 mins .
Vd.pallavi Maharastra: And for how many days we have to do the shirodhara by using coconut water and rose water.
Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: We usually do it for 45 minutes. If the patient is a sleep then we continue up to 60 mins. If the patient is in acute attack then we continue till the attack subsides.
Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: You can decide your own frequency accoring to individual patient.
Dr. Rinku Shah: About temperature of coconut water and rose water.Means directly or with some heat.
Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: Directly . Room temp.
Dr. Jyoti Ashok: 1)Balahatadi taila / migrakot oil application & light massage on head 2)migrakot/ shirashoola vajra rasa/ cephagraine tabs 2 stat followed be 1 every hr till pain subsides. 3) patyadi khada or triphala tabs 2 stat followed by 2 every hr till he gets motion & pain subsides. Constipation must b relieved.  If indigestion is the cause then langhana must b advised. Only hot water with ginger is advised. If pain is due to hunger then light taking light food is advised.
Vd. Sandeep J. Prasad: Acharya says eating jalebi+ green chilli before sun rise have good results in migraine. Jalebi is ushna and snigdh. It will subside the sheet and ruksh gun of vata . And green chilly will open the shrotorodh.
IPR Chhayaben: Jalebi is ok but how to eat green chilly ??
Vd. Sandeep J. Prasad: Any tikshan , ushan virya oshadh we can use. Which can remove shrotorodh.
USA Irene CCA: Treatment when headache is related with hormonal issues?
Dr. Jyoti Yagnik: Massage ; nasya ; shirodhra
Ayulink: Let's us share treatment and practical tips for chronic cases of shirahshul (Headache) of any etiology or pathology.
Dr. Jyoti Yagnik: Hingvastak churn before meal. Tab.trifala gugal ; 2bd  trayodashag gugal ; 2bd lashunadi vati ; 2bd  pathyadi quath & bedtime rechan aushad + diet cotrl / doshadhikya.  In pittadhikya shatavari churna+milk with sakar.
Dr. Lokesh Mehta: In kapha predominance I get results with Chitrak,  Haritaki,  shirashuladi vajra,  godanti and mahalaxmi vilas ras along with nasya of shadbindu oil. in pitta predominance sootshekar ras  pathyadi kwath godanti and sirashuladi ras along with goghrit nasya gives good results.
Vd. Ajay Pithiya:
1. Frontal headache - mostly due to kapha dominance - drug of choice is Laxmivilas Rasa
2.Temporal headache - pitta dominance, drug of choice is sutsekhar rasa
3.occipital region headache - mostly vata domianance - pathyadi quath is drug of choice (Courtesy : vd ketan bhimani, Rajkot)
Dr.sarang Patil: Shirshool along with bhram (Rhomberg's test +ve) related Manya asthisandhigat vat (Cer.spondylosis) releives by Ekangaveer ras 2tab Bd with honey.
Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Gyan mudra helps in reducing headache. Gyan Mudra- Together with basic pranayama but later it helped isolated too. I got this info from one Austrian Dr who is practicing Ayurveda in Austria.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Suryavart, headaches starting with raising sun and subsiding with setting sun, Hingu-saindhav Nasya in morning alternating with goghrut nasya,  for 7 days continuously. no medicines only Nasya and pathykar aahar vihar. exceptional results after a month of failed treatment of migraine by pain killers every day.
Dr. Sushant Patil: Maka ie Eclipta Alba Swaras Nasya is also useful in Suryawart.
Vd.kiran Ambre Pune: In recurrent attacks of migraine - Cap Axantrin , (Nisarga Herbs ) 2 cap OD for a month, 1 cap OD for a month give best result.
Vd.pallavi Maharastra: What r the contents?
Vd.kiran Ambre: Bhringraj , ginger, amalaki.
Dr. Rinku Shah: Mental stress as well as low hb can be caused. So rx accordingly.
Ayulink: Let's us discuss now management of headache - shirahshul as upadrav (complication) or shirahshul as associated with other major disorder.
Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Severe headache never before can cause brain hemorrhage- (Cow ghrit Nasya or Bhrahmi ghrit Nasya) and Manage emergency treatment. Acute cold caughing(Pratishyay) Nasya with Shadhbindu oil, Lakshmivilas ras. Spectacles or weak eye side Nasya with cow ghrit or Jivantyadi ghrit ,Saptamrit loh,Amlapitta Sutsekhar rad And Pathyadi kwath.
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Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: For Shirshul I would suggest lep of Sunth+ Vacha+ kapur on forehead. Shul is the symptom of vaat so treat vaatprakop first. When vaat gets obstructed by pitta or kafa aggravate shool. So we have to give pitta or kaf shamak treatment along with it. So in my treatment vat vidwans+ kaf/pitta shamak chikitsa must be done.
Vd. Rahul Botadara: I use shirahsuladiras 3 tab+ laxmivilas 3tab+ sutsekhar 2tab. this combination gives good result in acute condition. this communication gives result like paracetamol.
Dr.Piyush Dodiwadiya: In migraines Sweets is useful. It gives instant relief.
Dr. Jayshree Y. Mahajan: I use Pathyadi ghan vati 2 bid, sutshekhar ras 2 tds, gives good result.
Dr. Chirag: I have used pathyadi Ghan in many cases of acute headache in large dosage acutely. I have used in a dosage of 8tabs start with luke warm water. Then 4-4. Then 2-2 Even a good head massage with some points of marma in griva  And talu gives subsidiary effect in acute condition
Nasya in kaphaj and vata kaphaja acute headache is good but should be performed with all steps not only drops. Shirodhara in some pittaj condition is good. Even gud-haritaki is good in pitaj condition
Ayulink: Pl elaborate this. Which kind of sweet? Dose? When to give? How to give? And in how much time it works? We all have learnt in Ayurveda education that sweet is good for pittaj shirahshul. You should give your experience in real patient. Thnx.
Dr.Piyush Dodiwadiya: Particularly Jalebi is useful- 4/5 jalebi. Good result in morning hours. Otherwise anytime when acute attack. In known case of migraine we should use this.
Dr.Surjit Kaur: Kaamdudha rasa if pittaj shirashul.
Dr.Amal P Joseph: I use godanti bhasma with pathyadi kwath bd gives good result. 20ml of pathyadi kwath + 60ml of Luke warm water + 2 pinch of godanti bhasma at morning and evening 1 hr before food.
Dr. Supratim Bir: Dehydration is the most common cause of headache. So, immediate hydration is the first treatment. Now suryavarta/migraine bruhana nasya with Ksheerbala 7. Dose can b 3-5 ml in single sitting . Similarly nasya with karpashthadi in sinus related headache cures the acuteness. Sometimes agnikarma in cervical area cures stiffness in head. That's from my experience.
Dr. Minakshi Kaundal: Godanti bhasm 125 mg bd with lukewarm water , Pathyadi kwath pravahi 20ml bd, Shirashuladi vajra ras 125 mg bd.
Dr.Rasika Deshmukh: I too give shirshuladrivajra ras 2tds, mouktik kamdudha 1tds,  pathyadi kwath 1tsp bd n shirodhara by jatamansi.
Dr.Sunil Nadaragi: Shool is due to vat 1.patyadhatryakshadi k adha 20 ml at night before sleep ( nisha kal) with Luke warm water 2. Duralabha+ trivrutha+ abhaya choorna( each 500 mg) + aragvadha ghan vati  - before meal with Luke warm water for dipan pachan and vatanuloman.. 3 . Dashamool kshirpak ( dashamool choorna boiled in milk) nasya will relieve instantly from shirshool .I have good experience with this.
Dr. Rahul Doke: 2 capsules of Narvi plus + 1 shirshuladi vajra Ras + 4 Kamdudha moutik + honey. Gives instant relief in 1 hour or so (Allopathic medicine) Phenargan tablet (25mg)  1 + 1 diclomol tablets + 1 omez-d capsule + warm water... Let patient sleep for 1 hour & headache subsides. Apply some roll-on ointment on forehead + give it to smell to patient.
Vd. Bharati  S. Deshmukh: Jaloka  works  very  nice  in pittaj headache. Urdhwa jatrugat vikar always consider  about  rakta  dosha dushti.
Dr.Amal P Joseph: I advice Daily application of balahadadi keram on head before bath. It will prevent the attack of sirasoola.
Vd. Jitu Hadiya: In paitik shirshool I do raktmokshna from jugular vein it's give Instant relief.
Tilak Raj Gujrani: Shirashul- Vaataj. Pittaj. Kaphaj.
Combination ; Migraine associated with nausea / Vomitting, Sinusitis, Hypertension, Glaucoma, CVA. These are a few to name. First cause / hetu then treatment accordingly.In migraine ; 1. Naarikel lavan  2. Sutshekhar ras 3. Lashunaadi vati 4. Tab. Godanti mishran 5. 15 - 20 ml fresh cocconutwater frequently in sips or with straw to cool pitta and prevent dehydration. If not available then ORS. As patient wants to close eyes or lights switched off, typically pitta vittilated with secondary vaata. So diet pitta VATA shamak.
Acute case Tab. Paracetamol + Tab. Stemtil MD 5 mg. Take and complete rest in dark room for 1 hour. Quick relief. In chronic cases, just on the appearance of aura of migraine ( it is about 1-2 hours before attack ), these two tablets and rest. Attack prevented.
Vd Raksha Shukla: I give tab shirshuladi 3 & pathyadi kwath ghanvati 3tab. Results is good
Vd. Nikul Thakkar Palanpur: Cap Palsineuron  And Cap Kseerbala give best Result..
Vd. Bhavesh Sirvi: I give Gudadrak Nasya in acute and chronic condition of migraine. And sinusitis . It gives instant relief.
Dr.Rasika Deshmukh: Is gudadrak available in tail form or ghrit form in market?
Vd. Bhavesh Sirvi: We can make with milk for instant.
Dr. Anup Torane: Gudadrak means jogerry n ardrak
Vd. Bhavesh Sirvi: Also in Ghrit. Take one small piece of adark and small piece of jaggery trichurate with 3-6drops of milk (so patient can tolerate).
Vd. Suhas Chaudhari: In many cases constipation is found as main nidan in shirahshool. Relief found with only koshtha shuddhi in such cases.
LVG Shriram Gandhi: Variyali (sonf) , Shrkara, Harad small pieces, just chew in the mouth, it can give relief in pittaj shir shul within half an hour.
Dr. Dilip Nalage: Adrak or adraksvaras??
Vd. Bhavesh Sirvi: Both can taken. If u take adark than use jaggery.  If use adarkaswaras than use jaggery water.
Ayulink: Let's us share treatment and practical tips for chronic cases of shirahshul (Headache) of any etiology or pathology.
Dr.Ankita Kanani: Practically  ardhav bhedak and suryavart cure in only 3 days by nasya of narayan ghrit and no history of repeat. Also 8 days patient was advised with refuse vat vardhak ahar vihar.
Dr. Vipin Pandey: godanti bhasm +shir shuladi vajra ras + laxmi vilas ras ko pan ka swaras in morning empty stomach before sun rise for 7 day very good result. I was given to my mother fully relieved to her chronic headache.
Dr.Sunil Nadaragi: Chronic cases(Purana) shirshool is mainly due to rakhatashiragata vata dosha with sometimes anubandh of pitta kapha. it can treated by 1) virechan - virechan with trivrutha leha should be done because virechan expel rakta gata dosha 2) Nasya - Baladhatryadi tail( oil) or Shrigopal tail (oil) Nasya is very effective. 3) Mahalaxmivilas ras 1 tab with 20 ml of pathyadhatryakshadi kashyam at night before sleep should be taken. this treatment management will definitely cure any chronic cases of headache.
Tilak Raj Gujrani: 1. Cephagrain tab and nose drops 2. From kitchen ; soak khus khus ( poppy seeds ) and split black gram daal
(urad chilka ) equal quantity separately. In the morning mash split black gram to remove chilka, make paste of khus khus, split black gram and a few white pepper. Fry in very hot desi ghee, make halwa. Almonds and walnuts can also be added. Instead of water use milk. Consume daily first thing in morning and nothing 1-1/2 hour after that. During winter take daily. Very good brain tonic, stress remover curing headaches.3. Almond oil as nasya
Dr. Minakshi Kaundal: 1. Cap tagar 1bd 2.cephagrain tab 1tds 3.goghrit nasya in morning Tagar give good results in migraine.
Croatia Branko Markovic: Think always we should look pathology.. For example there was one woman suffering for 10 years with migrains 2-3 per week. She was apparently ok with not much symptoms.. Some slight problem with stool. Taking pulse I notice that her liver is weak and and samana-apana also. I gave her punarnava mandoor and triphala. During one month she had more headache but after that period she was getting less and less and now she is free from headache. For vataja and kaphaja: lashuna 3-3-3 before food and shira shola vajra ras 1-1-1 give good results. For pittaja: sutshekar ras 1-2-1 before food, prawal panchamrut 2-2-2 after food.
Dr. P. A. Deshpande: Hyper acidity, constipation, lack of proper and sufficient sleep, strain on eyes due to computer work and travelling on two wheeler , chronic cold  etc causes headaches. I am using cupping therapy, electromagnetic therapy, Neuro even tension therapy , ozone oxygen blanching therapy.  For mild to chronic pains.    
Dr.mukesh Sharma: Seb(apple)ke chilko ko batik kaat kar Nanak mila ke subh khali pet khaye. Shirashul me aaram hoga.
Dr. P. A. Deshpande: Cupping. Therapy - Due to in blood supply and saturation of plasma in veins and tissues pains are caused. Cupping action and vaccume  releases obstruction and saturation giving instant relief  frequent use  also regularise blood supply. 
Electro magnetic therapy - it kills  bacteria in cavities where medicines do not work. Neuiro even tension therapy-  In this flat elastic strips are used. The elastic  strip  is hold tightly  on fore head with  both ends exactly  at backside . Holding head  the strip is pulled and relaxed.  This creates even tension around  give acu pressure effect .  Nasya of  panchagavya ghrut is also good. For hyper acidity and constipation  colon  cleansing . Change in life style diet, pranayam  meditation exercise  has no option.  ozone / oxygen  therapy rectified many disorders. Related to headaches.
Ayulink: Let's us discuss now management of headache - shirahshul as upadrav (complication) or shirahshul as associated with other major disorder.
Dr. Yogin Patel: In such cases I give erandbhrust haritaki 2tabs bd
Vd. Pritam Bharat Veer: Treat underlying pathology along with pathyadi kadha.
Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: 1)Sometimes shirahshul is associated with Trigeminal Neuralgia. In this type of cases we can use cap.palsinuron and trayodasang Guggulu 2)when modern science says that the shirahshul is because of migraine in Ayurveda we can interpret  the diseases either associated with Sinusitis or gastritis acid peptic disorder if disease is Sinusitis oriented we can use Laxmi Vilas Ras and Tribhuvan Kirti Ras with shirah suladi vajra ras. If the disease is related with gastritis or we can say amlapitta in Ayurveda we can use avipattikar Churan and kamdudha Ras and udumbaravleh 3) srirahshul is associated with psychiatric problems we can use smritisagar Ras Brahmi Vati and saraswatharishtam 4) if shurahasool is related with hypertension we can use sarpagandha Ghan vati.
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