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Next topic for discussion:Management of Bronchial
Asthma according to Ayurveda
Dr.
Dhruti Kagrana: Asthma is a condition in which your
airways narrow and swell and produce extra mucus. This can make breathing
difficult and trigger coughing, wheezing and shortness of breath.
An attack could be triggered due to allergic
reactions to irritants, or some other triggers or stimuli like dust, smoke,
fumes or chemical allergens like pollen, grass.
According to ‘The Complete Book of Ayurvedic Home
Remedies’ by Dr. Vasant Lad, “The underlying cause of all asthmatic conditions
is increased Kapha dosha in stomach. From there it moves into the lungs ,
trachea and bronchi. The increased kapha blocks the natural flow of air,
creating spasm in the bronchial tree and resulting in asthma and wheezing.
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Dr.
Dhruti Kagrana: can we mange acute attack of asthma -
mainly breathlessness through Ayurveda?
Dr.
Savad Kerala: Medicine should be ushna ruksha kapha
vilayana and vatanulomana dravyas
Example Dashamula katutraya kashayam, Swasa kutara
rasa in (accute stage) and later ushna snigda vathanulomana dravya like Ela
kanadi kashayam
Mahalakshmi vilasa rasa
Dr.
Sujata Guha: Nayopayam Kashay is also very
good. Kanakasavam
Gopeechandanadi gulika
Swasanandam gulika
Kompanchanadi gulika
Ashallyadi gulika is very good for children.
Dr.
Madhura Phadtare: Post by Dr.Satyendra Oza sir. *Cor
pulmonale में प्रथम प्राणवहस्रोतसदुष्टि
तत्पश्चात्
हृदय
दुष्टि
एवं
रसरक्तादि
स्रोतोदुष्टि
होती
है,कास
एवं
श्र्वास
रोग
कारणीभूत
हैं
, वात
कफ
दोष
की
प्रधानता
तथा
साथ
में
कभी
कभी
पित्त
भी
, विभिन्न
प्रकार
के
प्रतिघात
से
विभिन्न
प्रकार
के
लक्षण
उत्पत्ति
, अत
एव
रोग
विनिश्चय
में
कठिनाई
सम्भाव्य
है
, एक
उदाहरण
: कफज
कास
में
पित्तानुबंध
होने
पर
तमक
की
उत्पत्ती
अर्थात
तमप्रवेश
या
तमक
श्र्वास
चिकित्सा
व्यवस्था
में
पित्तनुत्
तत्पश्चात्
कफनुत
, नैदानिक
चिकित्सकीय
अनुभव
से
ही
परिपूर्णता
सम्भाव्य,
कासादि
रोगापचार
से
भी
Cor pulmonale की सम्भावना बढ
जाती
है
, चिकित्सा
व्यवस्था
में
(१)
प्राणवहस्रोतस
दुष्टि
के
लिये:
वासा
कंटकारी
रास्ना
पुष्करमूल
भारंगीमूल
कुष्ठ
तुलसी
शिरीष
यष्टि
पिप्पली
सदृश
द्रव्य
, (२)
हृदय
दुष्टि
के
लिये:
अर्जुन
शतावरी
चतुष्पर्णी
अमृता
आमलकी
हरितकी
ब्राह्मी
वट
एला
पंचकोल
सदृश
द्रव्य
(३)
रसरक्तादि
स्रोतोदुष्टि
के
लिये:
दशमूल
पुनर्नवा
मुस्ता
पाषाणभेद
वरुण
सारिवा
मंजिष्ठा
किराततिक्त
कालमेघ
कुटकी
रोहितक
शरपुंखा
विडंग
निम्ब
मंडूर
शिलाजीत
सदृश
द्रव्य
(४)
व्याधि
प्रत्यनिक
औषधि
: प्रभाकर
वटी
, चंद्रप्रभावटी
, आरोग्यर्धनी
वटी
, गोक्षुरादि
गुग्गुल*
*COPD ➡️ Hypoxia ➡️
pulmonary vasoconstriction➡️ pulmonary arterial hypertension ➡️
right ventricular hypertrophy ➡️ tricuspid regurgitation(systolic murmur) ➡️ right atrial abnormalities ➡️
systemic venous congestion ➡️ raised jugular veinous pressure ,
congestive hepatomegaly jaundice anorexia and pedal edema , Parasternal heave ,
epigastric pulsations ,+/- hepatic pulsations , +ve hepatojugular reflux , etc
.with history of chronic cough dyspnea with or without wheezing*
Dr.
Sushant Patil: Shwas classified in two types 1) vataj
shwas and 2) kaphaj shwas
If dry cough is there snehan also must with Narayan
tail or til tail , cough not expectorate easily so swedan
2) in kafaj shwas cough expectorate easily here sdd
ushn dravyas shwaskuthar rus advice
Veg kalin chikitsa and avegkalin chikitsa are different
Dr.
Shahil H Bhavsar: I have heard a doctor gave vasa churna
to vataj shwas patient and he died. How so?
Dr.
Arvind Shahane: My combination for tamak shwash or it's
related complain
1---- sitopaladi churna 100gm
Ardusa
churna 100gm
Pushkarmool churna 100gm
Shwash
kuthar ras 25gm
Shrung
bhasma 25gm
Godanti bhasma 25gm
Mix all and give
1--1--1tsf with honey
2) Tab Dekofsyn 2--2. Alarsyn pharmacy
3) Erandbhrushth haritaki tab 4 at night
Shri
Minoo parabia: Better taken with Nagarvel pan. Gives
better result.
Dr.
Bhavini Raja: Shrung bhasma ..which pharma?
Dr.
Arjun Mehta: I write this with my own personal
experience.
I am based out of Germany and usually get severe
Asthma in late June and July since I moved here in 2008. I am very fit and do
yoga, swimming and cycling regularly but It seems that I was allergic to some
kind of pollen.
I had to use strong steroid based Inhalers to get
relief. Usually in June I used to get a dry cough and within a couple of days
would have severe coughing spasms and
severe construction of my bronchial
pipes.
In November 2017 I started regular pranayam for
about 15 mins everyday. And in mid June 2018 I did a week long kitchri based
fast, and after that generally ate a little less.
In 2018 my asthma was very mild and i continued the
same routine in 2919 and again my asthma was almost gone!
I plan continue the same regimen this year and I
hopeful that the results will be better.
Dr.
Shahil H Bhavsar: Karnvedhan in dev krut chhidra for
asthma i.e. tamak shawas is practiced nowadays.
Different needles are used for that.
-gold
-silver
-tamra
Etc.
Than a clean thread is tied around the hole.
Dr.
Arvind Shahane: ASFA surat
Vd.
Pritam Bharat Veer: Not possible
2168:
Is all of this just management? It is possible to cure asthma. Why are people
not asking how?
Dr.
Sujata Guha: I have been cured of asthma with such
treatments. For several years I was fine
but it did come back too.
To remain Arogya, One has to maintain ahar, vihar
and achar
2168:
Some
say as such yet I always wonder who understands ahar. E.g. We do not often hear
of people like rishis living past 200. All that is said and written by modern
practitioners does not follow classical texts. Who is saying to the entire
world foods such as amalaki haritaki bilva amrataka etc should be regularly
taken. And so forth.
We are aware of what is happening in the world. And
what happens often such as zika ebola etc. Are we not always discussing simple
problems and not concentrating on the well being of the world? Treatment of all
conditions seems possible if we strictly followed classical texts, interpreted
them properly, avoid modern foods without rasa like what everyone eats, okra
cauliflower bitter gourd methi taro potato etc.. All not traditional foods. And
like the old rishis, when traveling, learning of the plants of the area,
e.g how many live outside of India without
visiting the fields mountains forests etc of where they live to find the best
plants. Or studying knowledge of such. Everyone is trying to make a living
trying to save for retirement, have a place to live, feed their family, etc. As
such the spirit of the rishis and siddhas seems to be gone and the world's
problems that should be simple, no one has an answer, few if any have a
lifetime of experience with all the plants that grow around them or enough of
the important ones in classical texts.
Ayulink
Ayurveda: That is the secret. Continues efforts are
needed....medicines are not the only matters.
Famous proverb in Guajarti "Davathi saja kari
shakay, saja rakhi na sakay".
Means, one can cure somebody with medicies, but can
not keep him cued with medicines for long.
Asthma care or managemen invloves multiple factors.
Aahar and Aushadh are much discussed all the time. But vihar - vichar -
psychology factors are importantt to address, where I think we practitioner
cant focus more. Patient is not with us for long time. As and when he gets some
relief with medicines and diet instruction, he will stop visiting ayureda
doctor. Recurrence can be there because of not enough changes in vihar - vichar
and psychology.
Dr.
Suresh chatwani: Vichar shudhhi will be most difficult
to achieve. Even Mind set of Practioners is important in treatment.
Dr.
Manshukh Mangakiya: Patients do not give credits to
Ayurveda practice ,even cured with Ayurveda medicine. When the patient get result
, give up Ayurveda medicines and do and don't before Sansrankarma ( apunarbhav
chikitsa ), reappear sign and symptoms of the disease.
Dr.
Sushant Patil: If diagnosis is at perfect level even
at Ayurveda and with help of modern or either of both then they can give credit
, it's experience of mine.
But if we or our people stressed on on treated or
Drugs what others are following and what exactly formulations of successful
Vaidya it is based in Definition of
Quacks according to Charak .
2168:
Well said. As most talk only about herbs and do not see the entirety of the
self and the entirety of a person's ways and diet affecting all things of mind
and body, it is difficult for me to take many seriously.
Even when people talk about philosophy, the Gita or
upanishads, vedanta, yoga and so forth it is without awareness that there are
entire non-samkya ways of thinking like the vedas or Kashmir Shaivism.
Everything people believe only from suffering and conquering emotions is
lacking.
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Compiled by - Dr. Dhruti Kagrana
Compiled by - Dr. Dhruti Kagrana
