Cardiac Asthma...Can we treat it with #Ayurveda?

Views shared by several ayurveda professionals and non-ayurveda people in discussion group:
Disclaimer:
All views shared here are only for knowledge. This information doesn’t have any scientific validation. Various doctors and non-medicos have shared their views and experiences in this discussion. Please do not try any of the suggestions described here, without prior consult from your regular, qualified doctor. Dr. Prerak Shah and no other person is responsible for any unwanted effects, side effects or contra-indications in your health. Thank you.

Todays topic for discussion:  Cardiac Asthma...Can we treat it by Ayurveda?

Group 5:

Dr. J. T. Contractor Herbal Therapist: If tried rejuvenator organic alkaloids to eliminate free radicle & bring back body metabolism to its virginity may b the ultimate way of treating any ailment to some extent at least

Dr. Sudhir shah (neuro): Arjun is the root for treating cardiac asthma . Jawahar mohra may do wonders

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: Arjun with combination kravyad rasa twice a day

Vd. Milan Prajapati: Kanakaasav

Group 3:

Minoo Parabia: Cardiac asthma is the asthma resulting through cardiac insufficiency.  Therefore, the drugs used for true asthma are contraindicated. Date stones,  Arjun, and other known cardiac stimulants are good. However,  Vasa, in association with tulsi and peeprimool were found helpful. People following drastic dieting as a wait loss programme were found more susceptible to this.

Group 6:

Vd. Bhavesh Thakkar: Cardiac Asthma : Arjun Kseerpak

Prior to administrating the aushad, Snehan svedan, dipan pachana etc should be done according to Dosha.

Vd. Piyush Prajapati: How can v understand cardiac  asthma as ayurved!??

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Cardiac asthma is nothing but its symptom of cardiac problem..

Vd. Piyush Prajapati: Cardiac asthma may be connect with Raktgat avrodh by kapha dosha which causes vata prakopa and then kapha will be dry b’cz of vata prakopa so avrodha becomes more and more.. It's also aavran condition.. I think Lasun kshirpak is faster beneficial then Arjun kshirpak. Lasun oil ni Hradbasti with saindhav is highly effective acc to me..

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Heart failure is common cause of cardiac asthma..Valvular problem, heart muscle dysfunction (after MI)and sometime renal artery stenosis may cause cardiac asthma...Heart failure(left heart) ➡back pressure to lungs➡pulmonary congestion(oedema)➡fluild accumulation between respiratory basement membrane and pulmonary cappilary➡difficulty in gas exchange➡breathlessness➡called Cardiac asthma...treatment should be concentrated on two target points..1) increase heart strength➡ give +ve ionotropic drugs digitalis(hratpatri) or Shringa bhasma(horn ash), abhraka, arjuna, ➡increased tension ➡produce more pressure to over come total peripheral resistance➡eject more blood into circulation➡releive pulmonary congestion➡get releif in breathlessness....2) Give diuretics Punarnavadi (boerhavia diffusa) kwath➡total bloos volume reduces➡venous volume reduces➡venous return reduces➡cardiac load reduces➡back pressure to heart reduces➡➡➡➡➡

[10/30/2015, 3:35 PM] Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Back pressure to lung reduces➡relieve pulmonary congestion➡releive breathlessness...Punarnava is also in Kasahara dashemani...also manage associated complains, give laxative in case of constipation...

Vd. Piyush Prajapati: Dasmoolarist with Hemgarbh in small quantities is best emergency drug for any type of Hradvikar. Just give it muhurmuhu..

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Dashmoola is shothhara..it will reduce pulmonary oedema... Vata kaphagna as well as tridosh hara...difficult to get brihad panchmoola...Charaka has suggested Dashmoola, alcohol(madira) and cedrus deodara(dev daru) water as a drink in Swasa... Swasa is mainly vata kaphatmaka and dashmoola is also good vata kapha hara...so it has good effect in asthma...Khamire gav jaban ambari (unani medicine) is very useful where heart is too weak in cardiac asthma..

Management of Restless Leg Syndrome...#ayurveda approach

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All views shared here are only for knowledge. This information doesn’t have any scientific validation. Various doctors and non-medicos have shared their views and experiences in this discussion. Please do not try any of the suggestions described here, without prior consult from your regular, qualified doctor. Dr. Prerak Shah and no other person is responsible for any unwanted effects, side effects or contra-indications in your health. Thank you.

Todays topic for discussion: Management of Restless Leg Syndrome...#ayurveda approach

Group 3:

Minoo Parabia: W-Ekbom syndrome involves unusual muscular,  nervine,  and circulatory conditions.  Vitamins through diet, nervine amelioration like Brahmi and Ekangvirras,  blood circulation enhancing do help

Group 6:
Dr. Pankaj Chhayani:  manage RLS as per "कम्पवात" management along with basic principals of management of Vat vyadhi.  esp. i suggest kshir pak of ashwagandha 5 gm, mucuna 5 gm, ginger 2 gm, garlic 2 gm

Group 5:

Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: Restless Leg Syndrome:-  Mainly Vata dosha, Basti is beneficial..

Vd. Nikul Thakkar Palanpur: Its very commen disease whose lifestyle is very poor.

Divaswap , Ratrijagran, Viharjanya, Shit evam Ruksha dravya adhik sevan (excessive consumption of)

Vatvardhak aahar - vihar

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: MOST of these patients have low blood pressure. Agnitundi vati gives best results

Dr. Sudhir shah (neuro): It's a dopamine deficiency state , so dopamine agonists like premipexol is the treatment

Vd. Milan Prajapati: I think it may be included in ras xay lakshan.

Dry Stool .....#Ayurvedic approach

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Todays topic for discussion: Dry stool

Group 1:

Australia Vd. Khushdil: Ghee is the best option for Dry stool.. Need more Fibre in diet. Dates.. Khajur, Anjeer ...fig soak it overnight and have it in the morning at empty stomach ...the best resul I got without any doubts in two days...

Canada Nitin Shah: Bulk forming mucillagious agents such as psyllium and flex seeds along with Triphala and katuki can give the desired results

Anand Javeri: Consume a banana & Drink glass full warm water before bed.

This has helped one of my employees. ..warm water in the morning also on empty stomach. Fibrous food is also necessary. Psyllium with warm water before bed is a good way to get rid of dry stool.

Triphala is habit forming. Plus, our body gets resistant to it after some time & higher dosage is required.

Such is not in the case of Psyllium

Canada Nitin Shah: Triphala is rasayana and can be taken for a longer time and yes, it is bit drying and habit forming and that's why need to be combined with other herbs mentioned earlier.

Of course, vatagenic food should be consumed in minimal amount only

Anand Javeri: Also, those suffering from dry stool problem should avoid maida containing products like bread, biscuits, nankhatai & some puris, etc. Plus, they should increase their water intake.

Dipak Padia Osho: Minimum 3 liters of water to take daily. Avoid water immediately after taking food.After one hour of lunch and dinner take warm water. As per naturopathy best result obtains after maximum water input in the body which helps intestine for soft tools. New generation takes maximum aerated water which harms body. Make reminder in mobile to drink water every one hour which is safe and easy solution.

Vd. Dipam tripathi: Above all is....good...I want to add is

Hard stool is vata symptom...and best vata shamak is til (sesame) oil....

So in my practice i refer to pt. to take 10ml of black til tail with any warm liq...before dinner (apan vayu duahti shamak kaal for aushadh)

Group 3:

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: late night work causes for increase vata and result as a dry stool and also another cause related vata vardhak...trt is rukshan opposite snigdh like ghee or matra basti...or snigdha virechan like errand (castor)

Germany Helga Fuchs: Vata routine needed, no hurry or pressure, early to bed. If constipation is there, cop hot milk with tsp Ghee. Meditation and Pranayama help to relax mind.

Dr. Prerak Shah : We are not discussing constipation, we are discussing dry stool. Be clear for this. Thnx.

Chile Dr. Susana Valdes: If dry stools are there we have to control stool quality by diet and also reestore smooth of GI tract. For that we can give ghee at bedtime (dose depends on agni patient) for at least three months and Vata diet avoiding dry and cold food

Minoo parabia: Colon has phenomenal absorbing capacity. Therefore any medicine could also be administeted through colon...basti. if the body is not getting enough water, it will try to compensate by absorbing from food rendering stool dry. Ingestion of lots of cereals too require more water. Water intake therefore could be crucial. Mucilage can retain water like Pedalium, okra, Althea are helpful.

Argentina Dr. Fany Rosman: I agree with the above. It will be also usefull to drink / eat in the morning linseeds soaked overnight / eat oily food with vata balancing qualities. And lots of sede oil for externa lubricación.

Prerak dry stools and constipations are varying degrees of the same imbalance?

Minoo parabia: No absolutely not. Constipation is the body disorder because of varying reasons whereas dry stool is just habitual disregard to water intake

Group 4:

Vd. Neha dipam: Dry stool is cause of abhav of JAL tatva or sneh tatva and vat vrudhdhi…Basti treatment

and erand sneh is the treatment for dry stool

Vd. Rajal shukla: Liver tonic and erandbhrust haritaki churna

Group 5:

Surinder Pal Singh: Dry stool is condition of vata .drakshavleha  and  triphla ghrit is choice of medicine

Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: Dry stool:- Dosha:- Saman vayu, Apan vayu, Pachak pitta

It is mainly due to agnidushti. Pt. should avoid Ruksha and vatavardhak  aahara.

Sansarjana krama is helpful for Agnidushti.

Eranda and Sunthi are the choice of drug.

Surinder Pal Singh: .Dry stool - Matrabasti: castor oil + sindhav

Group 6:

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: 1/4 tea spoon  rock salt+1 tea spoon cow ghee in middle of meal gives good result in dry stool

Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: Reference in Astang Hradaya

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Charaka Grahani chikitsa...very effective treatment...1:08

Vd.vimalben (Anand): I got result from dashmool kwatha basti and til tail or erand tail basti.... I think if peristalsis of intestine is disturbed then dry stool occurred.... And it is due to apan vayu vikruti... So basti can be apply, Even abhyang, svedana on udar (abdomen) is also helpful

Vd. Piyush Prajapati Palanpur: Astang Hradaya reference .. for Dry and Hard stool..

 पित्त रक्त विनिर्मूक्त समस्त आवरण आवृते

शुध्धे वा विध्यते वायौ न द्रव्यम लसूनत्परम

Cerebral atrophic changes.. #ayurvedic treatment approach

Views shared by several ayurveda professionals and non-ayurveda people in discussion group:
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All views shared here are only for knowledge. This information doesn’t have any scientific validation. Various doctors and non-medicos have shared their views and experiences in this discussion. Please do not try any of the suggestions described here, without prior consult from your regular, qualified doctor. Dr. Prerak Shah and no other person is responsible for any unwanted effects, side effects or contra-indications in your health. Thank you.

Todays topic for discussion:  Cerebral atrophic changes

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi:  in MRI cerebellar atrophic changes, ANA is positive, genetic testing not done

hyporeflexia ++ diagnosed by neurophysician as progressive cerebellar ataxia, More details will be available after she will consult patient again. Thnx for yr interest.

Dr. Bharat Sharma: Atrophy is not death of substance. It always has rejuvenescence!

This is what crystal clear understanding of Ayurveda! Neurology is not Vata Dosha but Also Yantradhara! Allopathy system can diagnose but not treat most diseases .....so suggestion to continue this discussion @ Tartam level!

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: True... Vata is yantra tantra dhara... Yantra dhara mean hardware/anatomical..and tantra dhara mean soft ware/physiological.... So when vata becomes dearranged , it cause anatomical as well as physiological problems.... Aadhman (abdominal flatulance) = simple form of vata disorder, Sandhivata(osteo arthritis)= little bit complex form of vata vyadhi..Neurological problems(paxaghata, ardita, aaxep)= complex form of vata vyadhi

Vd. Neha Dipam : Chatursneh basti and nasya give good result in  case, Brahmi jyotismati and aswgandha punarnava kancha bij churn with ghrit, And same drug sidhdh ghrit nasy

Minoo Parabia: Ekangveer, Samirpannag, Brahmi+kauncha+hurmalbeej+asvagandha+abha+laxadi guggulu. Also Jyitishmati with Vatsnabh and suhaga. We are using as Nervon, Neuricalm, Spondygo. Had good results in multiple sclerosis. As well as in Trigeminal Neuralgia.

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: shared MRI reports and findings

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Its hereditory ataxia, Frideric ataxia is hereditory problem, where dorsal columan and cerebellum are affected, Karyotypy done... No consanguineous marriage. I want to know age of patient…How old is she ? And what were the age of her parents at the time of pregnancy? Is pt needed help of others in routine?

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: 24 yrs age

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: I think its confirm diagnosis of freideric ataxia

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: for Frédéric genetic testing is negative

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Then its autoimmunity?

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: see above testing report. I have to talk with neurophysician ...bcoz 3 neurologist have seen the case and no one have put final remarks

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: SCA not detected

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: I have to read which genes r include in freideric/SCA

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: ANA positive

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: I personally beleive that there is no applicibility of such costly investigations... They have no full proof treatment of genetic problems and auto immune disorders  Ayurveda can do a lot in "Counselling of genetic problems and prevention of cytogenic disorder"

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: but its for to know our treatment outcomes...obviously genetic disease are not curable

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: We can give temporary relief...my seniors, my teachers said me that we should not do ayu treatment of DMD and other genetic problrms..but i wanted to know how much we can get result in these disorder and we worked on 7-8 pts in akhnadanand... We worked hard in panchakarma side for 1 year.. We made Majja sidhdha taila, raja yapana basti(mans ras yukata) ourselve, and used it on pts... I have reports of 2 pt..we even today get follow up from pts... Pts only got releif during therapy then there is no more releif...

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: yes...I also have same experience with genetic dis

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: In above case if there is degeration because of auto immunity than there will be good outcome. I think u should start treatment with keep autoimmune in mind

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: yes in freidrich GAA trineucliotide expansion -test is not done to confirm freidrich ataxia..so probably this is freidrich ataxia

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: As ANA is poditive

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: but ANA by immunoblot is negative

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani:  in freidrich , romberg sign is positive that indicate dorsal column involvement...dysarthria indicates cerebellar problems... And also see she would not have sense of joint position...romberg positive+dysarthria+loss of sense of joint position indicates most possibility of freiderich...

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: yes these 3 signs r positive

Dr. Dipak Shirude: Oleation I.e. Snehan in every possible way should be on priority in such case .. The various ways for snehana can be decided according to the situation of the patient .. Yet this will not give the patient the immediate encouraging results .. He or she can be treated with param ( highest quality ) raskalpas for fastest changes .. .. . Oleation I.e. Snehan in every possible way should be on priority in such case .. The various ways for snehana can be decided according to the situation of the patient .. Yet this will not give the patient the immediate encouraging results .. He or she can be treated additionally with param ( highest quality ) raskalpas for fastest changes .. .. ..

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Sneha saroyam purusham..Prana sneha bhuyishtha...prana sneha sadhya ...

minoo parabia: We should not be deterred by the fact that the disease is genetic.

Ancient Ayurveda didn't know anything about the genetic governance of body. It did therefore attempt many times to treat such ailments. ...like Punsavan.

I take liberty to mention about the concept of Epigenetics. It believed that the behaviour and expression of genes could be influenced through external factors.

One must therefore keep on trying.  Majjabasti, as mentioned before  be tried

Dr. Sudhir Shah (Neuro-physician): vit E , cholergol tab , gingiko biloba , norways 45 mg three times a day , tab rilutor 50 mg bid along with b vitamins and good amount of PT…

Co enzyme Q is given 300 u /day .200-2000 units vit E ,idebenon ie norways 300 mg /day , green tea extract apart from those posted above are from modern medicine .

Serotonergic drugs like serraline and also buspirone may improve motor and affective skills