Depression, Anxiety, Stress and tension.......day to day psychological problems and its management with #ayurveda....

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Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Very interesting and today burning problem of world is psychological disease,Child psychology is important

Shri Minoo parabia: My humble observation is, psychedelic problems are always having disturbed digestion. So if the treatment directs both the fronts,  results are good.

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Kam (desire),Kridh(anger),Moh(attechment),Maya,Irshiya(jealasy),Matsar-Are basic cause of psychological disorder. Manash dosh are reaction of family Social, Job  related problems, Financial crisis, Emotional hurt, Different situation , Detachment, Anger, Revange, Misperception, Misinterpret, Ego. How y react Emotions, Value, Moral Are factors. This are factors are attached to vagus nerve. Hormone-Digestive system--Both should be considered for line of treatment. Anybody invatated remote control device for shutdown negative impulse is ultimate treatment Hope and wish

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Inventing remote control is wrong way, it will create more problems...whatever allopathy have treatment of mental disorder, they accept that these are symptomatic...They believe existence of mana (mind) at some extent, but they don't believe in Atma, and without accepting Atma , its difficult to handle mental disorders..in upanishad ,there is nice verse regarding role of Atma, mana, imdriya, buddhi, sharira...

Vd. Hardik bhatt, Idar: Daily read Shimad Bhagwad Geeta ... One of the best and easy solution for depression and anxiety, Sarvamanyat parityajy mamekam sharanam vrajah.....leave all and surrender to Lord

Dr. Ekta Patel (g): Shirodhara,  suvarn brahmivati , pranayam

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: It's possible that reading gita can change. Only try to understand what gita says and  implement in life

Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Depression ~ Vatkshay. Trtmnt  of Vatkshay after managing pittanubandh or kaphanubandh with vaman virechan, or shaman chikitsa if doshas r not aggravated enuf for shodhan. Sunshine and Sound Beats anything Natural that upbeats spirits. Atma needs Nourishment. Soul Nourishment-

 1. Positive mindset inspite of adverse events.

2 Attitude of Gratitude

3. Satvik Aahar Vihar Vichar.

4. Abstinence from psychotropic addictions. Any drug or med that increases/ vitiates, vyavayi and vikasi gun of Aakash.

5. Restoring Agni. Awareness Governing Nutritional Intelligence (Dr. Vasant Lad's beautiful definition of Agni).

5. Consciously working on psych so it stays in one's control and  not under any external influence. Strong will power.

6. No amount of medicine can relieve depression if Acceptance of Life truths hard to acknowledge.

7. Being Happy ( aanand, not harshitavastha -vatgenic).

8. Mindful existence with love of life.

9. Having a strong purposeful passionate goal of life (achievable as per ones capacity) ( mindset inducing increase in Pitta esp. Saman pitta).

10. Detoxifying Mind and Body.. by Panchkarm Yog Or Simply existing walking in Natural surroundings. Sweating under Sun. Ultimate Agni sthapak.

Dr. Ravindra Upadhyay: for depression, anxiety, stress and tension, stop expecting anything from anybody, always help others, no jealousy, no comparison, except whatever comes your way, high moral, keep cool, no apprehension, this will keep you cool, always be positive, do. pranayam, meditation. Though these remedies appear outdated, obsolet  but are the mainstay in the treatment modality of. the above mentioned problems.

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Pragnaparadh is root of manasrog. Patients becomes habituated for negative impulse. It's becomes habituated Constantly  awareness ,Slight change of thought process, Practice of consciousness, Understand the problem solution, Good company, Moral support, Improvement of quality life, Personal value etc.

Dr. Prerak Shah: My sincere question: Does anybody treat such conditions? practically does any one has good result? with evidence? Can you share it here with group?

Dr. Bhavesh Modh: The mind, body, and spirit are intricately linked. Anxiety is a condition that originates in the mind, causing physiological changes similar to the stress response in the body. Ayurvedically speaking, anxiety is a dosha imbalance where excess vata accumulates in the nervous system. Because we are in the height of vata season, it is a common time to experience increased anxiety in the form of insomnia, a restless mind, nervousness, panic, and/or fearful thoughts.Ayurveda offers time-tested wisdom regarding diet, lifestyle, herbal remedies, yoga, meditation, and pranayama to help bring balance to the body and ease anxiety.

Avoid ice cold drinks, particularly taken with meals or immediately after.Limit raw, cold foods such as salads and raw vegetables.Minimize caffeinated beverages and other stimulants. These increase vata, aggravating the nervous system.Include warm milk spiced with a pinch of ginger, cinnamon,cardamom, and nutmeg. This is a nutritious way to soothe the nerves and, when taken before bed, will promote sound sleep.Limit alcohol consumption. This substance has an adverse effect on the nervous system.Eat meals at regular times each day, making lunch the largest meal of the day.

According to Ayurveda, abhyanga (self oil massage) is an important component of a vata-pacifying routine. The Sanskrit word sneha can be translated as both "oil" and "love". It is believed that the effects of abhyanga are similar .

Ashwagandha, is a highly effective adaptogen renowned for its ability to support the body in times of stress. 

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: We can judge the sign and symptoms of manasdosh Like Vataj-Aggressive.  Mood change, Restless, Irregular sleeping habit, Irregular diet, Talkative, Irrelevant talk, Dominant personality, Short temper, Gambler, High risk investment, Business, Fond of purchases, Eating

Dr. Bhavesh Modh:   Ayurveda     research shows that many physiological imbalances contribute to depression, anxiety and related conditions. Symptoms of depression and anxiety are triggered by excessive mental and physical stress, or disruptions of natural biological rhythms. According to Ayurveda, psychological problems start when fundamental imbalances develop in the biological intelligence that controls all bodily processes. Vata imbalance contributes to anxiety, fear, mental instability and insomnia. Pitta imbalance may give rise to anger and irritability..Kapha imbalance may lead to lethargy and depression.

Dr. Devesh Kumar: For depression manas mitra vatakam shows gud result

Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: There is a difference between Depression , Anxiety, hyperactive mind, schizophrenia , personality types  that may mimic mental disorders. So these myrid symptoms hard to catch everyday consistently in single pt.  Vata imbalance esp. Vayu and aakash  need conscious control by altering habits that may damage mind. I.e. satva oclusion by tam or raj. Yapya vyadhi. Best Therapy. For everlasting results.

Baroda Dr. Jwalant: Most probably  anxiety or depression  creates due to  pragnapradh . Indirectly  it  was created  by person or  patients  it  self  so  if you  are so  serious to  cure  permanently  take  history  in detail ,  try  to  find out  causes and if needed  councell  patient . It gives  better results then  medicines . Also it  doesn't  make any side effects . Some times some medicines can cause phycological disorders which we have to know with taking history of patients.Pragnaparadh - Chinta,  bhay, shok, krodha, irshya, lobh no  Hin ,mithya, atiyog.

Dr. Meghdoot Satvekar: Ayurveda research shows that many physiological imbalances contribute to depression, anxiety and related conditions.Symptoms of depression and anxiety are triggered by excessive mental and physical stress, or disruptions of natural biological rhythms. According to Ayurveda, psychological problems start when fundamental imbalances develop in the biological intelligence that controls all bodily processes.Vata imbalance contributes to anxiety, fear, mental instability and insomnia Pitta imbalance may give rise to anger and irritability Kapha imbalance may lead to lethargy and depression,Ayurveda does not simply match drugs to symptoms, because people can have the same symptoms for different reasons. Just as a headache can have many possible causes, not everyone has depression or anxiety for the same reasons.Since depression and anxiety can be influenced by many factors, such as diet, digestion, toxin accumulation, stress, exercise levels and daily routine.

Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Tab or syrup Prasham is the only ayurvedic medicine as per my experience,  that gave instant result in Aggravated conditions of mind.

Dr. Prerak Shah: Search for "gut brain relation" in Google. You will surprise to see millions of papers, which connects brain and gut. Concept of basti can be clearly understood with these so called modern research. These modern research will give us evidence that Basti treatment is good for all psychological problems. We are waiting for that evidence - western certificate.

Dr. Anup Torane: IBS is clear pic which show depending nature of mastishk  n aantra either or. so in any typs of grahani we can use medya rasayan medicine parallel with dipan pachan but not stanbhak

Dr. Bhavesh Modh:  The gut and brain have a steady ability to communicate via the nervous system, hormones, and the immune system.Some of the microbiome can release neurotransmitters, just like our own neurons do, speaking to the brain in its own language via the vagus nerve. 

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Very interesting subject of leacy gut syndromes.Origin of many disease correlate with aam in ayurved, Very true with vagus nerve

Dr. Sheetal Sumra: I was having one patient who was suffering from stress and depression. He used to get different voices of different different ppl like Sachin Tendulkar, Shahrukh khan .  I had advised him Shirodhara and basti. I did  Counseling,  reached him to meditate and boost up his confidence but I had got no good results..  Though patient was happy but I was not satisfied.

Dr. Meghdoot Satvekar: Medhya Rasayan'which is supposed to be having specific influence on higher brain functions. 'Brahmi'(Bacopa monniera) and  'Vacha' (Acorus calamus) are the important plants in the group 'Medhya Rasayana'. They are widely claimed as restorative ,nervine and mental tonics. They have got prominent action on Central Nervous System where they improve grasping power, memory, intellect and speech,and correct aberrations of emotions, mood and personality of an individual 

Other important 'Medhya' plants are - 

'Mandukparni'(Hydrocotyle asiatica) - It is indicated to be used in the treatment of mental retardation, speech disorders, insanity , epilepsy etc. 

'Shankhapushpi'(Convolvulus pluricaulis) - One of the best brain tonics. It strengthens the brain, brightens the memory and intellect. It is indicated in the treatment of loss of memory and associated mental disorders like insanity and epilepsy. 

'Jyotishmati'(Celastrus paniculatus) - Powerful nervine and brain tonic which stimulates the intellect and sharpens the memory 

'Jatamansi'(Nardostachys jatamansi) - Highly aromatic plant bearing a biphasic action on Central nervous system indicating nerve stimulation and nerve sedation (sedation to spinal cord specifically).

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: I am working on gut treatment along with v p k dosha balance. Increase the satva by chanting mantra Aum nad, Counseling, Root cause solution, Ampthy, Good relationship with doctor, Suggestions, Upgrade the personal value, Counseling with family members, Nasya, Pranayam, Astrological solution. It's should be continues and constant. Increase liking activity

Canada Nitin Shah: I will come up with other details may be later. But Nasya and basti treatments are most recommended

Dr. Ekta Patel (g): I treated very few pts of depression.  I gave brahmivati,  smrutisagar rashm,  tab. A fort & shirodhara.  It was successful.

Dr. Anup Torane: In d treating unmad (i  m not using word depression n whatever) in charak samita hav classical explanation about hetusevan types n treatment according to types.counseling is most important than medicine.-then✂ hetusevan-sarvang snehan with rajani tail-kalyanak/mahakalyanak ghrit (also useful in constipition)-Krumighna-suvarnyukt sarswatarisht-sneh n niruh basti alternate-Shirodhara-nasya-internal medicin

Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: * The three pillars of life are Manas(mind),Atma(soul) and Sareera(body). Psychiatry in Ayurveda integrates mind,body and soul.The mind-body connection is very important in Ayurveda.Physical imbalances can disturb mental state while mental illness leads to disruption of body functions.* Manas or the physical mind is connected to three faculties called Dhi(intellect),Dhruti(processing information) and Smruti(memory).

- Dhi is the intelligence which helps to learn,focus and understand.Vata dosha should be balanced for the optimual functioning of Dhi.

- Dhruti involves the chemical and electrical processing of information  and is therefore related to Pitta dosha.

- Smruti is the ability remember .Kapha dosha should be balanced for proper functioning of Smruti.

When there is proper coordination between these three factors ,mental health is perfect.When there is lack of coordination it leads to a condition called Prajnaparadha when the person becomes totally ignorant of what he does.

* Prana vayu, Vyan vayu, Sadhaka pitta & Tarpaka kapha are mainly involved.

Causes of Mental Illness:

Several factors influence the psychological upset in a person.

1) Social circumstances

2) Hereditary factors

3) Traumatic incidents

4) Personality of the person

5) Biological reasons ( abnormal changes in the chemicals which play major role in communication between neurons in brain.)

Healing threw 5 senses:-

Often  5 senses are very much connected to subconscious memories.Therefore the sound,touch ,vision,taste and smell can bring positive changes in people if used in the right way.Mind is connected to sense organs and stimuli they receive from environment.Therefore 5 senses are important in healing mental imbalance.

Canada Nitin Shah:  Dhee, Dhriti and Smriti collectively known as Pragnya and Prgnyaparadha as mistaken or misused intellect along with other factors are the main etiological factor for most conditions. Great explanation. Also we interact to the outer world through the five senses so keeping them healthy is most important. Just a reminder of 3 monkeys of GANDHI Ji

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Key for balance mind and thoughts, Beliefs, Perceptions, Reaction, Visualize, Understanding. Thought process Application-Compromise

Does and don't.- Count all circumstance.Don't react on signal incidents,Think of opposite person, If I don't like how I can does with other it's inteculate,Forgive and forget,Dealit negative impulse thought,Sacrifices,Trust on self Constantly everness is only remady for psychological disorder

Dr Sandeep Madaan: In IBS most of the pts are fearful. anticipation that a particular food will aggravate peristalsis make conditions worse. repeated counselling assurance is must.Most of them feel healthy when busy.the idle mind triggers the problem.share your views plz.I find tagar helpful in these conditions. Never tried pichha basti in these pts, it was advised by dr Prerak ji.

Germany Helga Fuchs:  Yoga Nidra - we train 5 senses softly and stress and mindknotes are going. Easy yogaasana to Stretch the body and relax breathing. No pranayama like brahmari in  Depression. This calms the mind and people go deeper. Nadi shodana is enough. Very useful is to walk daily, easy digestiv food, clear daily routine and follow a personal life plan. Most feel disturbed as she follow stupide society or religion rules. Society say this, religion say this, but life shows you another way. Find god in yourself and not in any religion. Virechan, Nasya.  Basti not useful.

Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Indriyaavajaya. Through Yog.

Dr Dipak Shirude: One can provide whole link of Ayulink blog. That will be more suitable.

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: ➡Depression:- loss the capability to enjoy (day to day) the small things of the life...Pts feel helplessness/hopelessness/worthlessness..

There are two types of depression:-

1⃣ Reactive: - big blow(financial loss, divorce, loss of relatives) to life and as a reaction to blow pts get depression...

Big blow to life➡depression➡

Counselling is more important along with medicines..

2⃣ Endogenous:- there is biochemical/neurotransmitter dysfunctions as a result of any disease process and pts get depression..

Disease➡biochemical/neurotransmitter dysfunction➡depression➡loss of job,wife,money➡ drug therapy is more useful along with counselling...

There are more two types of depression:-

1⃣ this is  not truly clinical depression.. Example for, woman losses her husband and for six month, she is down in mood,feel wortglessness/ hopelessness/ helplessness and gradually she come back to the life.. This is normal bereavement time..its not truly depression...

2⃣ Clinical(true) depression:- last longer, inappropriate to loss,generalized feeling of hopelessness/helplessness/worthlessness...Example for , other woman says 15 year back I lost my husband and I never enjoyed life, and she is down from last 17 years, its abnormal...

➡Depression in Ayurveda:- Most of mental disorders are involved in Unmada/Atatvabhinivesh... In unmada definition, there is

भक्ति विभ्रम(bhakti vibhrama):-  यत्रेच्छा पूवँमासीतत्रानिच्छा भवति।- pts develop disinclination for things desired previously..

आप्त सेवन(aapta sevana) is given in manas Roga(mental disorder) treatment.. Here, aapta can be grandmother/grandfather/ close friend/ spiritual guru etc... In condition of depression, company of aapta is most important otherwise pt feels Hopelessness/ helplessness, pt feels lonely and may end her life...

Charaka has described by various etiquette in Sadvrutta.. These etiquette are most useful in prevention of depression...

Some of them are as below:-

Social etiquette,Sexual etiquette,Dietary etiquette,Management etiquette,Study etiquette.

Pragyaparadh(intellectual blaaphemy) aggravates all the dosha..

As preventive aspect, dhee, dhruti, smriti should be worked well..

 ➡Dhee/ buddhi (intellect):-

Views things as they are...by impairment of dhee, one can't differentiate between bad and good..

➡Smriti:-  healthy memory. After knowing things as they are, to keep continue this memory in mind is good.. If some one can differentiate that alcohol is bad and coconut water is good its called proper dhee but person forget this differentiate at actual time then its called impaired smriti..

➡Dhruti:- restrain the mind from its harmful object.. If dhee working well(difference between alcohol and coconut water), smriti is also working well(remembering goodness and badness of alcohol and coconut water at time of choice) but dhruti is not working well(can't restraint from bad things and consume alcohol) and causes problem..So most of time dhruti(self control) is not working...

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Nomo phobia is new psychological disorder-Addiction of mobile phone

Germany Helga Fuchs: Dr. Pankaj. Traditional Yoga works for all type useful and fast.

Dr. Meghdoot Satvekar: Pancha Karma therapies has been used for centuries in the Ayurvedic management of disease. Pancha Karma is the process which gets to the root cause of the problem and corrects the essential balance of 'Tridosha' in body.The therapies specific for Stress conditions are Shiroabhyanga, Shirodhara, Shirovasti, and Abhyanga.

The drug used in the treatment are mostly medhya drugs or medhya rasayanas which are believed to act as specific molecular nutrients for the brain affording a better mental health leading in turn to alleviation of the behavioral alteration and to cope up day to day stress. The herbs of adaptogenic properties are Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera), Brahmi (bacopa monniera), Shankh pushpi (Convolvulus pluricaulis), Vacha (Acorus calamus), Yashtimadhu (Glycrrhiza glabra), Guduchi(Tinospora cordifolia), Amalaki (Embelica officinalis) etc.

Brahmi ghrita in dosage of 5 -10 gm with hot milk and Nasya is of great help.

Yoga - Progressive deep relaxation , i.e., Shavasana(Corpse posture) brings about a relaxed state of mind and practicing it daily is very useful in reducing stress. Daily practice of 'Yoganidra' is also useful for making your mind calm and tension free.

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Pancha Karma is the process which gets to the root cause of the problem and corrects the essential balance of 'Tridosha' in body.The therapies specific for Stress conditions are Shiroabhyanga, Shirodhara, Shirovasti, and Abhyanga. The drug used in the treatment are mostly medhya drugs or medhya rasayanas which are believed to act as specific molecular nutrients for the brain affording a better mental health leading in turn to alleviation of the behavioural alteration and to cope up day to day stress. The herbs of adaptogenic properties are Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera), Brahmi (bacopa monniera), Shankh pushpi (Convolvulus pluricaulis), Vacha (Acorus calamus), Yashtimadhu (Glycrrhiza glabra), Guduchi(Tinospora cordifolia), Amalaki (Embelica officinalis) etc.

Brahmi ghrita in dosage of 5 -10 gm with hot milk and Nasya is of great help.

Yoga - Progressive deep relaxation , i.e.,  Shavasana(Corpse posture) brings about a relaxed state of mind and practising it daily is very useful in reducing stress. Daily practice of 'Yoganidra' is also useful for making your mind calm and tension free.

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: what's the difference-Recently, there has been an incredible amount of media on depression and how prevalent it is in society. It is named as the most prevalent Mental Health problem in the Western world. If we take a look at our society today, we can certainly see the root causes of why this would be so. But what is the underlying issue of depression? Does anxiety have some contributing factor to the depression people are being diagnosed with? In particular, are the diagnoses of "anxiety" and "depression" distinguishable ?

People who experience an Anxiety Disorder often experience depression as a secondary condition. That is, if you are experiencing panic attacks, for instance, then it would be logical that the huge physical and emotional impact of this ongoing experience is going to effect you, and you may develop depression. When we live in a cramped cage of fear and anxiety, our system will react to the loss of personal freedom. In our research on Treatment Needs for Anxiety Disorders, 53.7% of people reported they also experienced major depression as a secondary condition. When asked whether they felt this depression was as a result of having an Anxiety Disorder, they all responded "Yes". This ties in with the Diagnostic Manual DSMIV. It states Major Depression can be secondary to the primary problem - the Anxiety Disorder.

The other side of the coin is that the researchers also state people who are severely depressed do become anxious. Depression can be the primary cause and people then react to the depression with anxiety. This is true of people diagnosed with Bipolar (Manic Depression). Certainly the constant roller coaster, from deep depression to manic high, can create anxiety in a person's life.

Other theories believe they are different parts of a single disorder. Still others believe they are distinct disorders, but overlapping. DSM-IV includes a formal definition of "Mixed Anxiety-Depressive Disorder".

So when a person presents to a doctor with symptoms of depression and anxiety, what is the diagnosis? The coin can flip either way. In the case of Panic Disorder (the root cause is the spontaneous panic attacks), Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), Social Anxiety and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder - the diagnosis seems clear. It is the Anxiety Disorder which is primary.

The grey line comes in with Generalized Anxiety Disorder. There is overwhelming anxiety - certainly, but with depression being present, the doctor may diagnose Major Depression rather than an Anxiety Disorder. The root cause may be the anxiety, but it is the secondary condition which is treated. It must be said, however, we have seen people come to us who have a diagnosis of Major Depression but are also experiencing spontaneous panic attacks. Surely the diagnosis should be Panic Disorder or Anxiety Disorder. Perhaps when the person presented to the doctor, they spoke of their symptoms and the doctor decided they were experiencing depression. Clients ask us for assistance in managing the panic attacks, but seem resolved to the fact they have been diagnosed as Major Depression and that is that. They seem to think the two are unrelated and accept they have a "chemical imbalance in the brain theory".So when we present to a doctor and speak of our experience, our physical symptoms and general sense of wellbeing, what are we telling the doctor?

Dr. Prerak Shah: I like the last part of differences and similarities. Very informative.

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: Similarities

Anxiety & Anxiety Disorder     v/s  Depression

·         Fatigue - related to the overwhelming experience of

the anxiety and fear energy, tension and extra energy

used to continue regardless, loss of sleep etc     v/s Fatigue - related to the energy drop associated with depressed mood

·         Difficulty concentrating (related to anxiety cycle thinking and monitoring of symptoms)

v/s Difficulty concentrating - related to energy drop of depression, slowing of the mind)

·         Difficulty sleeping - related to thoughts, symptoms, anxiety cycle, nocturnal panic attacks

v/s Difficulty sleeping (may oversleep)

·         Headaches, muscle tension and pain      v/s Headaches, muscle tension and pain

·         Loss of appetite (or overeating)                v/s Loss of appetite

·         Loss of libido or sexual desire/enjoyment            v/s Loss of libido or sexual desire/enjoyment

·         Loss of interest/pleasure in normal activities - related to constant need to monitor symptoms and inability to let go of negative thought patterns     v/s Loss of interest/ pleasure in normal activities - related to loss of physical/emotional/cognitive energy

·         Significant weight loss or weight gain (in some)- related to anxiety energy            v/s Significant weight loss or weight gain

·         Feelings of excessive or inappropriate guilt - related to person's desperate fight to overcome the Anxiety Disorder for an extended period of time; feelings of guilt about how it effects their family and guilt that they haven't gotten better yet           v/s Feelings of excessive or inappropriate guilt

·         Drop in Self esteem and sense of self confidence - due to effects of anxiety disorder     v/s Drop in self esteem and sense of self confidence

·         Feelings of unworthiness, guilt, self-blame and self depreciation              v/s Feelings of unworthiness, guilt, self-blame and self depreciation

I feel the both different,  there's a small grey line between them. I think jata mansi powder is better for anxiety and bhallatak is better for depression .

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: To whom y label as a physotic patient.It's big debut, Clinical symptoms remains at least three months on and off. Not responding to any medication. Then y do counseling then label as a physotic personality.Many it's temporally. Due to Conditions,Circumstance,Event,Uneventful situation,Emotional hurt

Dr. Bhavesh Modh: अतत्वाभिनिवेशो मानसो विकारः स च सर्व संसारि दुःख हेतुतया गद इत्युच्यते ।। चक्रदत & charak  also accepted  महागद

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: Lariam (mefloquine), used to treat malaria. Depression, anxiety, and psychosis are among the side effects of this medication, according to an article in Medical Science Monitor in 2013 that explored the chemical cascade behind mood changes.

Chantix (varenicline), used to stop smoking. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) lists hostility, anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts as possible side effects of this medication.

Inderal (propranolol hydrochloride) and other drugs in the beta-blocker class, used to treat high blood pressure. Research on beta-blockers and depression suggests that some, but not all, of the medications in this class can contribute to depression, according to a report in the February 2011 issue of the Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology.

Contraceptives. Contraceptives including those delivered by vaginal ring or patch could lead to depression in some people, according to research published in the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews in 2010.

Corticosteroids. Some people who take corticosteroids experience side effects such as depression, anxiety, and panic attacks, among other symptoms, according to a review of research published in Rheumatology International in 2013.

Interferon-alpha. As many as 40 percent of people using this immunologic medication may experience depression, according to a 2009 report in Dialogues in Clinical Neuroscience.

Interferon-beta. The link between this immunologic medication and depression is debated, but researchers reporting in Therapeutic Advances in Neurologic Disorders in 2011 note that depression is a concern for those who take it, in part because of their underlying conditions.

Nonnucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors. These HIV medications may increase the risk for depression, according to research published in the September 2014 issue of HIV Medicine. Arimidex (anastrozole) and aromasin (exemestane). Both of these long-term breast cancer therapies may contribute to depression, according to the FDA.

Vigabatrin. This anticonvulsant may cause depression, irritability, and psychosis, notes a review of studies in Acta Neurologica Scandinavica in 2011.

Better to take history,  as many patients taking prescribed medications. Which causes depression

Dr. Bhavesh Modh: In Morden medicine अतत्वाभिनिवेश = ? Paramnesia  or paranoia

Dr. Shriniwas Gujjarwar: Pradnyaparadha is also a main cause of depression.

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: There are more than 200 classified forms of mental illness. Some of the more common disorders are: clinical depression, bipolar disorder, dementia, schizophrenia and anxiety disorders.All of these mostly due to pragnaparadh. 👍🏻 a feeling of guilt.

Dr. Bhavesh Modh:

All mental disease include  in ayurveda  only 3.

1.उन्माद

2.अपस्मार

3.अतत्वाभिनिवेश

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Grahaj unamad.Anybody interesting in astrology please share and guide

Dr. Anup Torane: Plz anybody tell me what is role of nadiparikshan in d unmad apsmar n atatvabhinivesh

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: I met Dr. Damania sir last week...He did yagya  whole day for mental disorders and got good results...

Dr. Bhavesh Modh: I think ग्रहोन्माद related with moon ...

Dr. Meghdoot Satvekar: Depression and anxiety often lead people to smoke, drink excessively, and gain weight, behaviours that can definitely promote hypertension and heart disease. the connection between mood and hypertension may be more direct than that.  anxiety and depression put the body on constant alert, which places a strain on many organ systems. hypertension medications, when combined with psychotherapy and antidepressants, helped prevent severe attacks of high blood pressure 

Dr. Anup Torane: When sometimes pt.do false history ahout psy disease then wht typ of nadiparikshan indicate actual he/she suferr or not

Shri Minoo parabia: Mention of moon as one of the factors aggravating  Unmad is fascinating. Science is divided in opinions. I would like to know from the actual practitioners, about their observations. Please!

Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Astrologucally mecury affliction with rahu/ketu schizophrenia/unmad. Moon affictions  show personality types(DSM may hv described some personality traits as disorder or disease.). Now Introverted personality types are being debated to be included in DSM. 🤔😳. This way 50 % population will b labelled as hving some mental Disorder. Diversity of Normality of human mind needs to be accepted. Ayurved way is on putting personal responsibility to Care for Mind Soul on patient. Allopathic way is Medicines will cure do wht u want or be less responsible for Ones own Overall health.

Severity and degrees need to be taken in2 consideration b4 diagnosing any patient as having a psychological problem. Shok , Bhay are not diseases or big psychiatric problems as per Ayurved view. They are transient symptoms of afflictions of Satva by Raj or Tam. Only Atatvabhinivesh is of unexplainable aetiology.

Dr. Shriniwas Gujjarwar: In our opd .A female patient having BP 210/140.She was in severe depressed mood.Disturbed due to may be family problems / something elce ..Vague pain all over body .

Admitted her for a day and given her Sarpagandha mishran and Saraswataristha and counciling.

After 1 hour her  BP was 140/90.Then given  discharge with medicines.

Dr. Samir Suneri: Remedy for stress and disorientation  1.baadam giri 2. Kaddu k beez 3.soouf 4.safed khaskhas 5.choti ilaychi k beez 20 gr 6.rophya bhasm 7.misri  mix to all 7 and dose 10gram daily at night with milk . This remedy is use full for stress as well as balya for brain.For mastiskhya balyata we cAn use panchkarma 1st sherodhara or sherovasti by balatail ,bramhi oill. 2nd niruuha vasti by dasmool.3rd aNuvasan vasti by mahanarayan oill kwath 4th shastikshali Swed 5th nsaya by anu tail.As pr vititation of  dosa we can select the  medicine and aswagadhrista+saraswataristha is very usefull in all patients .

Dr. Bhavesh Modh: सर्वे मनोरोगेषु घृतपानम् श्रेष्ठ  ।

चरक ने अतत्वाभिनिवेश,  उन्माद एवं अपस्मार  की चिकित्सा  मे अधिकांश घृत योगो का वर्णन  है ।

सांप्रत काल मे केवल  प्रातः काल गौ-घृतपानम्  और नस्य  मानस रोगी को उतम फलदायी  है । मेध्य औषधि  की controversial & अशुद्धता की स्थिति,  संहिता वर्णित  लाभ देने मे असमर्थ  है ।

Ghee is best for all mental disorders …….Don't afraid with cholesterol

All reddy    psychiatric treatment  ( Morden medicine's )   created    anemia or  digestive disorders .

Shri Minoo parabia: My humble observation is, psychedelic problems are always having disturbed digestion. So if the treatment directs both the fronts,  results are good.

Vd. Bhavdeep Ganatra : I suggest my patients to do AUMKAR chanting 21 times in the morning & evening & night. Also Nitya Shiroabhyang .It has helped a lot to my patients to remove ASHRADHHA - KLAM - TANDRA - ATATVAVABHINIVESH - which covers huge psychology associated issues.

Vd. Neeraj Pooner: Daily 15 to 20 min of mindfuulness meditation or just concentration on brething can perform best for patients.Meditation n breathing exercises are best for anxiety n stresss....Along withh pitt shamak tt like applying of chandan on forhead chandanasva etc b given.Modification of diet like dt of satvikka cn help in calming down the g factors of stress

Baroda Arti parimal: Badam rogan 50ml,Suvarana brahmi 4 tabs. Crush tablet mx in oil give 100 strokes to mix proper 10 drops morning and night with milk

Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: Shirodhara with brahmi siddha oil , nasya of go ghrit at bed time & padabhyanga ( पादाभ्यंग )with shata dhauta ghrita (with metal kasa ) helps.

Vd.Atul Ambadkar: 1.Shirodhara2.Shirobasti3.Shiro-pichu , Alongwith Nasya chikitsa.a part of panchakarm helps a lot to manage stress. Brahni ghrit/tail, Panchagavya ghrit.

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: वाकपवृति प्रयत्न ऊजाॅ बल वणँ स्मृति this are function of udan vayu mainly this fuctions hamper in this condition so will try for proper udan vayu

Vd. Krutika Suhas Chaudhary: In this cases adhyatma chikitsa...counselling and ayurvedic chikitsa all simultaneously should be applied. By pranayama and aumkar we correct the gati of vayu so it will work nicely.In modern also they have devloped behavioural therapy.WHO has deevloped DSM criteria for diagnosis....latest is DSM 5

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: Even arjun also felt depress सीदन्ती मम गात्राणि मुखं परिशुष्यती च। this time only aptopadesh spiritual words works so this also helpful

 Baroda Arti parimal: Badam rogan hamdarad (Almond oil )  Brahmi, Vacha, Jatamansi, Guduchi, Shankhapushpi, Suvarna Bhasma.

Vd. Sushmaben hirpara: Change the work is REST....out of depression. ..Bhallatak in any form give unbelievable results

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: How to use ? Nice new thing about bhalltak: It's medhya and madhur vipak so works...

Vd. zalak dhruv: 1)Shirodhara with brahmi oil 2)Pratimarsh nashya with gau grit 3)Om kar loudly in morning and at night 21 times 4) dipan pachan according pt. 5) any mrudu virechan at night with warm water Med:ashwagandha / satasvatarist are also useful in depression and stress managementMost importantly pt. Coincil ing ###

Supra19: What to do if I feel imbalancing during a whole day and  centre of my head  Paining, Dr. Says its a physiological problem

Baroda Zehra Torabally: great.  As a therapist, I found my customers react best to stress with deep shirobhyang  followed by abhyang and shirodhara..  stress, fear anxiety is all Vata Dosha disturbance.  Avoid ice cold foods & drinks,  during summer also try and drink matka water.  Triphala powder with water is a good remedy.  Tulsi also boosts mental functions and is anti-inflammatory..  I add fresh tulsi leaves from my garden every morning to my water bottle which I carry to work.

Vd. Sushmaben hirpara: I use the bhallatak pills of narsinh churna ..

Dr. Jinal Thakkar: There is definitely a connection between digestion and mental wellbeing,Pitta dharaa kala and majja dharaa kala are related....

Vd. Sushmaben hirpara: Initially I ask patients to stop oil. Prepare the food from cow's ghee.  With  propotionate masala..Cow's ghee is best for dhee, dhruti  & smruti. .. in that way it's more effective

Dr. Jinal Thakkar: And hence...  Using pitta shaamak drugs also helps..I usually ask patients to take durva siddha jal Along with other medicines

Dr. Pina Patel: Carak.sutra.16 Samyak virechan laxan...

Virechan do....budhhi,indriya,and sudhhi of mana(mind)

Vd. Suhas Chaudhari: Wah pinaben....very good reference

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: धीधैयआत्मादीविक्षानमं मनोदोषोषधं परम।

Vd Achal Jansari: Definitely brain n intestine r Co-related. Intestine is the 2nd brain.U can read it article on net by typing it.

Vd. Fulva Kubawat: 1. Vatanuloman chikitsa.2. Chandrabhedan pranayam .  Abhayasan plays role as fearless state of mind... Just like it's name.

Dr. Samir Gadhia: Management of Anxiety, Depression etc..

- Dipan Pachan Drug

- Regular Walking / Deep Breathing Exercises

-  Counselling about life style, Our Dincharya Rurucharya etc..

- Cap. A Forte (Dr JRK)

- Drink more water

- Anulom Vilom Pranayam

Lastly I advice the patient Art of Living.. Sudarshan Kriya.. Special Rhythmically Breathing Technique..by shri Ravi Shankar Maharaj..

Sudarshan kriya is the best tool to manage stress, anger, anxiety, depression etc.. I have experience of more then 10 patients..

Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Krodh, bhay, Shok, chinta, Moh cause for Vayu, Pitta, and kaph dusti. rule out cause for depression. Thyroidism, Pre Manopause, post Manopause are main cause for female depression……..Counselling is must Vatanulomak and laxative treatment, Brahmi vati, Dashmool kwath, Cow ghrit,Pranayam, Omkar, and GAYTRI MANTRA CHANTING OR LISTENING has powerful result in insomnia. Music therapy has also very good suportive role in depression .Shiridhara,Shiroabhyang, Nasya with Brahmi ghrit or everyday Cow ghrit, Basti chikitsa is also effective

Dr. Bhavin Vachani Surat : which types of music sir?instrumental or any slok

Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Diet: Moong dal, Pumpkin, Bottleguard,boiled milk with Pipplimool and sunthi Maximum use cow ghee and milk. Instrumental like fluit, santoor, Tabla. Man no adhipati Chandra(moon) and Lord Shiva has Moon on his jata so we can suggest patient to offer milk and water on Monday. Mahamrityunjay mantra CHANTING………..I always suggest my patient to do work which u like or which is ur hobby its very effective. Give pulses in Diet on full moon day because aardrata out side and inside body also

Vd Raksha Shukla: I use cap.Hibril (vital Pharma) found very good result

Dr. Prerak Shah: Actually according to Jain religion, one must not consume leafy veg and watery element food substances on specific days of Lunar cycle......particularly 2,5,8,11,14th day of both cycle of the month...no moon day and full moon day also need to included.......(Pl correct me, if I am wrong here).

Actually increase of water element in the body can be affected by moon energy (like moon's effect on ocean) and that can cause more psychological problems....so they have religiously asked people not to eat such food. And to replace it they have asked to eat more legumes on those days...so that legumes can absorbs water element by their ruksha guna. This is scientific.............

Baroda Arti parimal: Even zoezen ( dietician PHARMA ) is also very good result ……….Manasmitra vadakam ( Nagarjuna Pharma), Sarswataristum gold-Zoetic PHARMA

Vd. Nikul Thakkar Palanpur: One best experience. 40 years old, Male patient.  He was suffering from anxiety and stress since last 8-10 years. Just because of failure in Gpsc class 1-2 officer inerview ..When he came he was taking Escitalopram, Imipramin Hcl, Flutern , And Clonazepalm.

He was taking allopathy medicines since last 7-8 years. But he was addicted and cant miss even single dose of medicine. And because of that his weight gain was 11 kg.. Innitially i did his counselling first time for half an hour. And then i started Jatamansi+ Brahmi Chrun mix 1 pinch 5-6 times a day on tounge. Tab Shankhvati 2-2,Tab Erandbhrust haritaki 3 before meal ,Cap Memory plus 1-1,Tab Brahmi Gold 1 in morning with honey.. step by step i did shirodhara and Nasya both once for 7-7 days.

And in 7 months had stop all his allopathy medinices and also continue our medicines for more 5 motnhs.  And since last 1 year he is not taking a single medicines for that and he is 100% free from that.  And his weight loss was 8 kg during our medicines.. He comes to meet me once in a month to just say Thankyou. As an Ayurved Physician most imp thing is Councelling.   Only medicines doesnt work in this kind of case..

Dr. Sujata Vaidya: Depression = low self esteem ,Anxiety = fear of loss,Stress= low immunity and stamina. Tension = unable to forgive.If there are considered, medication or  therapy and counceling will have better results.

 Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: I have a female patient of depression  from long time and after taking so many antidepressive medication she become obese and suffering from Backpain and nervous system problem like Fat deposition in lambosacral region

Ayurvedic treatment:

Diet: Moongdal and 2 roti, Aampachan, Divaswap nishedh, Yog and Pranayam, Shirodhara and Nasya

Before treatment she hadn't sound sleep, she couldn't work, she couldn't stand for 10 minutes .After treatment she joined her job again, she can do her work, sleep good, she can walk about 2 km

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: One pt did shirodhara and ayu medicine atleast 6 month also pranayam but he strongly beleive  according astrology he must suffer 6 month  compulsory than no medicine works even shirodhara couldn't help for sleep

Dr. Satyendra Sharma: Stress or tension is any factor,(emotional, physical, social, economic and so on)that requires a mental or physical adaptive response. This factor can be real or imagined.Stress is any pressure placed upon you that demands a response. We cannot Eliminate stress but we can beat stress.we can stop letting it spoil our lives.we can knock it out as a risk factor for chronic disease. The classical music, regulates stress hormones, boosts immunity func*function and increases levels of endorphins,the pleasure chemicals in the brain

Vd. Krutika Suhas Chaudhary: In female joint pain and back pain are seen due to suppression of urges..anxiety and stress....There is relation with back/ knee joint pain..headache ....indigestion.... Giddiness ...anoraxia etc with psych...For that pathamishran..patha+ dhanvayas and Sutashekhara raupyayukta works very nicely Also pitta prakriti people are more prone to irritation... Anger etc ..so they should do nitya virechan or virechan once in a year to shuddh pitta which also helps to keep mind xalm

Dr. Jinal Thakkar: Lakshmana is the paryay of shweta kantakari

Dr. Binni Shah: Thyroid imballance is also one of the causes for depression and anxiety

Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: My another survey for female depression is that they r not following Sutika Paricharya .it may cause  vayu dusti. now a days female is doing job and also look after family so its very stressful

Dr. Sumita Jaiswal: I agree dat aumkar chanting loudly do help in psychological problems. Have advised number of patients along wid meds n it works.

Vd. Akshata Swami: In anxious and stressed conditions doctors can advise patients to count numbers descending like from 100 to 1....it gradually decreases pressure on brain by concentrating on counting, n effective in kids also. In day to day practice atmost effectiveness of aumkar chanting we can experience but in patients we can't convince to that because some are by satva only rajasik... This is best in those cases

Dr. Saritha Reddy: Can any one explain the role of Panchakarma especially sirodhara (taila dhara, takra dhara, shiro pichu) in the above said anxiety, tension, stress, etc

Shri Minoo parabia: Mention of moon as one of the factors aggravating  Unmad is fascinating. Science is divided in opinions. I would like to know from the actual practitioners, about their observations. Please!

Dr. Suyog Kulkarni: Sir, in my little bit of practice ,I have certainly observed increase in the symptoms of anxiety near poornima & amavasya days.

Dr. Sujata Vaidya: In energy medicine or esoteric healing, moon influences sedating and flowing influences of water. Moon influences fluid. One important fluid in our system is brain spinal. It has a direct impact on the triggers and flow of hormones in the body.

The ebb in this fluid changes the dopamine pressure .... and can cause hyper emotions of 2 extrems. Happiness is usually not a problem. Depression or suicidal tendencies very much are. most of female hormones are water reactive. It all adds up logically. The moon phases influences female reproductive cycle. Full moon or no moon are 2 heavenly bodies together ( amavasya) or absolutely on opposite sides  (pournima ) causing the pull and push in hormones and cerebro spinal fluids.

Nadi shodhan works very well. Fasting helps ( only milk. Nothing else).  OM chanting strength the mind body flexibility to safeguard from lunacy.

Moods like depression anxiety etc can be mapped with moon phases. This will help patient plan in advance positive mental training or preparing the body to safely from moon related painful situations

Mr. Premkumar Yadav: Meditation on early morning specially 5 am helps a lot Chanting of A.U.M atleast 11   rounds. Then only it will helps against stress

Supra19: We can do it anytime? Asking abt aumkar

Vd. Krutika Suhas Chaudhary: Three times rhythemic breathing techniques also works good

Mr. Premkumar Yadav: Guruji used to say sunset and sunrise is best time to chant,But one can chant at any time. Precaution is you should mentally prepare

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: Thalpothichil is good therapy to reduce stress. Recently I started at my clinic and getting good results……….According to a senior doctor when pt comes to ayurveda after being diseased from long time they have have one or more psychological elements.He always prescribe one or more medicine for manovahstrotas.Mainly  patient suffering from digestive tract disorder or skin disorder will receive antipsychotic from him.Initially I didnt liked this approach but

As I have seen lot of cases treated by him now I think we should include antipsychotic in our most of the prescription.

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Vd. Kinjal Patel: Saraswata ghrita nasya.Padatala abhyanga with cow-ghrita

Vd. Pulkit D. Patel: depression has treat with follow rutucharya and dinacharya......

Vd. Kinjal Patel: Achar rasayana

Canada Vd Priti Patel: See the root.. According vata or Kapha.. Give appropriate lifestyle and diet.. It gives  half of relief..!!

Dr. Jyoti Ashok: Counseling, listening to the pt.,Nidhana parivarjana, change of lifestyle…….Relaxation exercise like meditation & yoga,Mastihkya with brahmi taila or amalaki & takra ,OE shirodhara depending on the dosha & prakruthi of pt.,Saraswatharishta, manasa Mitra vati etc again depending on the dosha  & symptoms of the pt. Basti also helps.

Dr. Rachana Mumbai: Counseling has great importance in medical practice-One of my pt age 32 came to me with early manopause symptoms, having one 4yr old baby. On counseling i got to know that husband wife having no relation since the birth of baby. Constant noctural cry of baby was the reason for indifference btwn husband & wife. Pt had lost sex drive completely. I treated the patient with medicine for early menopause but her real treatment was counseling and anti depressive management. today she is not on any medication and living a happy married life. So many a times cause is something else and exhibition of symptoms is different.

IPR Chhayaben: Physical relation plays a vital role as antidepressant...

Vd. Nidhi Awasthy: Well I don't have any evidence but a male patient aged 28 years c/o insomnia , fear of darkness (he was unable to sleep alone or in dark ) , restlessness Was taking some anti depressants but getting no relief n gained Weight too ……….I prescribed cognum tab 2-2 tabs ,Brahmi vati 1-1 .At bed time- tab tenstrim one tab ….And of course counselling too .He is very fine now ………..Feeling active Having sound sleep, Lost some weight N very much less thoughts

Dr. Ravi Dewan: Again our shastra(Charak samhita) have references for counselling to handle all manasik dosha in the form of "sattvavajay chikitsa"Where physician helps the patient to develop insight  and once the patient understands the true cause of a situation and its consequences mithya gyan is no more resulting in healthy mind

Vd. Rahul Marwah: Aacharya have mentioned in jwar that the treatment of Shokaj  is kaam and vice versa. Therefore sex plays an important role in depression

Dr. Ravi Dewan: One of the patients had frequent fear attacks with no underlying reason with lot of tachycardia and loud palpitations. Got very good result with Brahmi vati, hridyarnav ras and sarswatarishta.

Australia Vd. Neerja Ahuja: I use purvakarma / panchakarma  for mind-body healing with lot of clients. One of recent clients was suicidal and another one had PTSD. They benefited from herbs, lifestyle n diet recommendations for vata pacification and treatments.

Dr.Yogesh Gorakhnath Patil: Stress-  sympathetic nervous system -Palpitation , Fear - cervical spondylisis diagnosis

Rayomand Parabia: Along with the medication I use  relaxation techniques such as progressive muscular relaxation and instruments for  reprogramming The Mind's patterns.I use  mind machine.The instrument works on the  fundaments of brain entrainment by using flickering light.

USA Irene CCA: depending on dosha pranayama and yoga and appropiate herbs suchs a brahmi and counseling

Rayomand Parabia: yes counselling is extremely effective if the person is still in the state of reasoning

South Africa Tamlyn: https://naturashealthandwellness.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/the-who-what-why-and-how-of-depression/

Rayomand Parabia: You can search in Google about mind machine out hot stream or brain trainer these are the synonym for sale instruments in foreign countries they are using this instrument since long almost after Second World War but in India it is started since 10 years

Dr. Lalit Kansal: For depression manas mitra vatkam tab with sarswataristm11:13

Dr. Lokesh Mehta: I use malkangni ashwagandha vacha and  makardhwaj in vaat kaphaj predominance and mukta pishti pravaal swarn makshik shankhpushpi jatamansi bhrami mulethi giloy sat in pitta predominance manas rog. Diff combination of saraswata arishta ashwaganda arishta and bala arishta . panchgavya ghrit , mahakalyanak ghrit and bhrami ghrit gives good results along with counselling and panchakarma

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Dr. Sreedevi N V: Satvavajaya chikitsa n daiva vyapasraya chikitsa also suitable.manasamitra vatakam..brahmi ghrtam..kalyanaka ghrtam..saraswataristam..some of the best medicines

Vd. Tanuja Gokhale: As many rasayanas are prescribed for overall health n prevention of disease, similarly Achar rasayan prescribed by Charak is also very imp in this regard.

Colombia Ana: I believe good use of therapies help a lot. ..shirodhara, daily self abyangam  and also abyangam  done in the clinic. Some nasya with adecuate oils

Holland Devina Praktijk: And psychitherapy if possible. Teach patients to express themselves adequately. Teach them to become curious and open to lifes experiences and that they have the ability to cope with them (according to constitution); help them to feel their "inner powers" and "freedom" – psychotherapy

Vd. sandeep Ahirkar: Application of dincharya adhyaya may give good results

Greece Sofia: Rasayana for mental health : pumpkin with Ghee and cardamon also milk with almond is good for mental nourishment

Dr. Chetan Mehta: Walnut + Flaxseed + Sesame  This supportive combination is good

Dr. Dilip Pithiya: Acc. ICharak Samhita Meghya Rasayan1.Guduchi 2.Shankhpusp 3.Mulethi 4.Mandukparni -Any one  With Cow milk

1.Kalayanak Ghrut    OR 2.Mahakalyanak Ghrut OR 3.Panchgavya Ghrut . Meditation, Pranayam, Sadvrutapalan.Yam & Niyam Palan Also Useful which is Parts of Astang Yog.

Holland Devina Praktijk: I treat those conditions on very regular basis and have 2 psyychogists supporting the people whilst I take care of dravya, diet, abyangha, yoga and the specific treatments according to Ayurveda if necessary.The evidence I have are the scripts published on my website (a few of them). I cant share them at this moment as they are written in Dutch; but will see to it that we get them translated into English. This will be for a later discussion, but resulta are very good

As a practitioner we should remain logical and sensitive. Find a good combination between clinical approach and human (from the heart)

Relax, unserstand and take care of the patient; giving him/her (back) their own responsibility. Step by step if necessary ; padam padam

Dr. Dilip Pithiya: Nidanparivarjan(Remove the Cause)  Pathya: Satvik Ahar Vihar, Rest, Snan(Taking bath) Abhyang, Shirodhara, Svacchta Rakhna,……Reading Spiritual Book………Dincharya Palan,Milk,Ghee

Apathya: Ratrijagran, Upvas, Basi Bhojan, Ruksh Vidahkarak Ahar,Film Cenema Ashlil Sahitya Padhna

Nashakarak Dravya SevaN Puran Ghrut (10 years old Ghee) is very useful. Dr.Dilip Pithiya

Mr. Ram Vala: I instructed my friend who was in depression for 3 years. Started doing bhastrika and bhramari paranayam, meditation (mindfulness and breathing exercise), Halasan,  Paschimopatasan, balasan, savasan.He started meditation from just 2 minute of time and i need to instructed then but now he is now able to do meditation for 30 minute.Simple breathing technique 1-2-3 for breath in and 4-5 for breath out for continue for 3 minute then savasan.He is now out of depression and can focus on work and he is now stable.

Dr. Vivek Deshmukh: As per ayurved pakwashay is stan for vata & basti is act on pakwashay so vat shanam is necessary to treat psychological problems.Practically seen that many pt of depression has history of constipation

Vd. sandeep Ahirkar: By chinta,(over thinking)bhaya,(fearness) ras shaya hapens which leads to Vata prakop so that if we treat Vata by basti chikitsa then patients which are also get benefitted, We should think of pandu chikitsa and hridya treatment as in maharashtra vd.datar shastri used chinchalavan taila in cases of depression

Dr. Sreedevi N V: Sir ...can u pls gv ingredients n details Of chinchalavana

Dr. Dayanand Bothre: According to sushrut Pittadhara kala ev majjjadhara kala

Grahani is main location of pitta While treating brain tissue we have to think of pitta

Dr. Bhaskar B Nymathi: In case of stress and tension instead of Dravya chikitsa, they need Mano vishaya utthejaka {Chintya vicharya oohya dheya sankalpa} Environment. + Here Manovaha stroto dushti is occurred so Meditation and pranyama play an important role to relieve from stress. +Guru vachana magala vani. May helpful. +Vibandha also lead to stress because mala is adhaaraneeya Vega when we suppress natural urge for long time difinetly lead to Stress.

Dr. Lokesh Raturi: Abhyanga Nasya Marma therapy followed by mriduvirechan and matravasti. Haritaki,Jyotishmati,Brahmi and sankhpushpi with praval panchamirit, brahma rasayan and Brahmi ghrut. Meditation and breathing techniques, as Sudarshan Kriya shows 70%cure in depression research by NIMHANS. Mantra chanting ,satwick food and wise company directly influence mind

Dr. Jyoti Yagnik: In depression doing pranayama in shavashan position.with silent mantrochchar of GOD. Use brahmi+shankhpuspi+yastimadhu+trifala+shatavari. Nasya : Shadbindutail

Germany Sandra Wuttke: sattwic food, meditation and pranayama, spending time in nature

Dr. Yogin Patel: Deep sleep-shavasan, aum / gayatri mantra listening, chandan tilak, co medy movie/talk,

Dr. Jyoti Yagnik: Improve positivity in patients thoughts & attitude by counselling

Vd. sandeep Ahirkar:  Ayurvedic remedies for depression & anxiety..Here are some Ayurvedic remedies for depression and anxiety:

1. Ashwagandha or Withania Somnifera can very effectively solve problems like manic depression, anxiety disorders, mood phobias etc. Nowadaysashwagandha capsules are available. You are to take four capsules per day for best results.

2. Brahmi or Bacopa monnieri is a nervine tonic that enhances mental ability. It is high in anti-anxiety agents that calm and soothe the mind.

3. The pleasing odour from cardamom calms down raging emotions and depression strucks the mind. A cup of cardamom tea has a great healing effect when the mind is restless.

4. Jatamanshi eliminates depressive and negative thoughts. It canalises the mind towards positivism and calms the mind.

5. Guggulu or Commiphora Wightii contains a special mind calming chemical called guggulsterones. This chemical can effectively cure depression.

6. Turmeric or Curcuma Longa can treat depression caused due to seasonal changes.

7. A combination of 1/8th teaspoon of nutmeg powder and amla juice can light up the spirits.

8. Rose petals immersed in lukewarm water is an effective mood enlivening tonic.

Dos and don’ts for depression and anxiety

Exercise regularly and take brisk walks to fight depression.Expose yourself to bright sunlight. Meditate or listen to soft music to get rid of depression.Avoid alcohol, sweets and caffeine.Immersing in scented lukewarm water can abate depression.Don’t indulge in negative thinking.Avoid consuming stimulant or processed food and refrain from consuming excessive calories.

Thus we see that Ayurveda can treat depression and anxiety effectively. Try these remedies and live a healthy, happy life.

Chinchalavan taila :

Tamarind ~250 gm, Water ~2 litre, Ground nut oil~1litre, Saindhav ~5 gm

Take warm water 2 litre  and add 250gm tamarind in that soak it upto seeds get separated crush it very well after that filter that mixture and take only tamarind water after that take ground nut oil and give heat upto tamarind water gets disappear and filter it our chinchalavan taila get prepared

Use ~vataanuloman,very much effectI've in gulma ,malawarodha (constipation),grathit mala, and hridya

I have used it very efficiently in patients of depression and anxiety

Dr. Rammesh Natu: Does anyone is aware of Emotional Freedom Technique for stress, tension, anxiety etc Combination of exercise, pranayam, meditation, Mantras works very well...

Dr. Sreedevi N V: Mantras helpful to.reduce stres n depression are?

Vd. Rahul Botadara: suvarn brahmi is very  useful in all this condition.

Dr. Jyoti Yagnik: Counselling with patient & his/her relatives also helps for good result in all these problems

Vd. Bhavesh Sirvi: Shirodhara is also useful

Dr. Sreedevi N V: Can u pls mention sme mantras useful in such regard

Dr. Rammesh Natu: You can chant any mantra followed traditionally by your family

Mr. Ram Vala: Pick any mantra from below…..ॐ नमः शिवाय……ॐ नमो नारायणाय…ॐ हम हनुमंते रुद्रतकमय हु फट्……Focus on agya chakra during chanting. Do it for at least  15 minute

Mr Hitesh Patel: Its above all are good mantras but gayatri mantra is more powerful. I think.

Mr. Ram Vala: Yes gaytri mantra is also good,Hanuman mantra is specially for  stress anxiety

Vd. Bhavesh Sirvi: only chanting of  ॐ ..........is also beneficial

Mr. Ram Vala: अ उ ममम...

Ms. Beena Amlani: All 3 sounds should be equally long.

Mr. Ram Vala: म्म्म should be long then 2 other………अ - from the navel/tummy. उ - from throat and heart. म - from brain

Holland Devina Praktijk: This is wonderful, but could you also write this in European etalics? I use mantra OM and Gayatri Mantra. Also Siddhi Meditation

Mr. Ram Vala: A - from the navel/tummy U - from throat and heart M - from brain………During the chant Mmmm, mouth/lips must be closed. A - Brahma - creator- tummy( as all energy created there) U - Vishnu - preserver/sustainer - heart M - Shiva - dissolver - mind - it must dissolved to highest energy in end.

Vd. Sandeep J. Prasad: Abhyang is also helpful with sirodhar

Dr. Rammesh Natu: Discussion is quite good... Does it belong to Ayurveda?

Holland Devina Praktijk: I think it is 100% Ayurveda... science of life

Dr. Vivek Deshmukh: I think nasya plays an important role to manage anxiety ,"Nasa hi shirso dwaram"

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Compilation courtesy : Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara