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Next topic for discussion: Suryavart, Ardhavbhedak -
different kind of Shirahshul management by #Ayurveda
Dr Jayesh
Patel: In severe
Shirahshul for instant result we are using “Gudsunthi" Nasya.
Vd Rameshwar Dhanaji: Please enlighten how much quantity of gud and sunthi to be taken ?
Dr Jayesh Patel: As a single drug we are using “Agtsya pushp churn” (Anubhut chikitsa) 1 tea spoon twice a day with pathyadi kwath.
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Dr Jayesh
Patel: Gud is double
than suthi. 1 pinch sunthi than gud is doable. Little bit water. Mix it &
filter with cloth. Take it for nasy 5-6 drops.
Dr.
Sushant Patil: Raktamokshan
through Shankh Pradesh also give nice results
Dr.
Arvind Shahane:
Please explain how do raktamokshan on shankh Pradesh By canula or By needle pin
point puncture
Vd. nikul
patel: I am using
Apamargkshar and Godanti bhasma combination and Pathaydi ghan vati for Shiro
Shool
Dr.
Arvind Shahane: How
much dose of apamargkshar n godanti bhasm
Dr.
Sushant Patil:
Depends on Dosh sanchay
Branko
Markovic: Is it
better to use pathaydi kashayam tablets or gana vati?
Dr Jayesh
Patel: Sir only
godanti bhasm?
Shri
Minoo parabia: Not
cheaper, but Sutsekhar suvarna yukta works efficiently. Still better if
combined with Aswagandha
Ayulink: Yes, I have tried with single
Godanti bhasma .
Vd.
Jayesh Thakkar: I
use Lakshmivilas Naradiya with Sootsekhar Ras (sada) and got good relief in
many acute conditions. Regular use of Godanti bhasma, Sirasuladi vajra ras,
Pathyaksha dhatryadi Kashaya, nasya gives control in severity and incidence. there
is definite relation of digestion and other condition with headache which needs
to be considered in treatment.
Dr.
Bindiya U Shanghvi:
I got good result in migraine with the aamla powder and black munnakka soaked
overnight and morning empty stomach to eat and drink
Vd
Rameshwar Dhanaji:
we do get results with ayu medicines but if migraine is chronic like 5-10 years
old then it becomes difficult to control recurrence.Opinion may vary.
Branko
Markovic: This is
challenging indeed! Any case of chronic migraine slowed like 10 years? And how
to approach?
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Vd.
Gurumahantesh: If
you suspect headache is due to vata vruddhi Kara ahara vihara then pratimarsha
nasya with go ghrita is sufficient. If there is kapha avruta shirashula then
one can go for classical nasya with anu taila/ pradhamana nasya with vacha.
Dr.
Krishnapriya: For
sinusitis I had seen a good result by
prathimarsha nasya with tulsi swarasa and honey daily,before sunrise.
Helga
Fuchs: Kapha: local
sweda (inhalation) and Nasya with Anutail, in catharr sweda and inhale of special
nasal powder in nostrils. Sinusitis needs a lot of rest, special emotional
rest. Diet is needed to. Avoid all oily and hard to digesting food. No salad,
no row vegetables. If symptoms are gone, go slow back to normal food. A good
way to reduce Ama is a decoct of: Cumin, Cardamom, piece of fresh Ginger,
Curcuma, 2-3 Nelken? Garlic, Coriander, Cinnamom. 1 Tsp/ each in 2 cups of water/
cook it down of 1 cup. 1 cup of this decoction in morning before breakfast, 1 cup
at evening, NOT after 7.pm. Drink it daily, up to the point, that all symptoms
are gone, and 14 days more. Most client will lost her overweight to. And be
very strict with diet. Do not forget no milk products, no curd etc. no bread.
Long lasting Sinusitis and her followed problems will gone. If client is not
able to take it on empty stomach then after breakfast. It is also a good way
for reducing ama before any panchakarma or oily treatment. But only use it if
ama is there. Real ama you can see and smell it.
Dr.
Bhavini Raja: Is
this decoction useful in aam condition of any disease?
Helga
Fuchs: Look for
stool of patient. If there is bad smell, mucus, then it is very useful. If
sputum of client smells bad, if cough is there and client spit grey blackish
hard mucus, like little stones, or secretion of nose smells bad. Only this I
see as real Ama. In Sinusitis you can see this easy. Only little more mucus is
easy to reduce with anti kapha diet Or boiled hot water with one hot substance.
744: Any kind of headache marma Chikitsa
may be selected according to the region affected or by the doshic nature of pain,
and the severity of symptoms. In
general, stimulating a marma enhances the flow of prana locally and thereby
reduces pain. For mild and short-term conditions, marma therapy alone can be
quite effective. Marma that can be used
to treat them by expert vaidhya,an specific marma as a preventative measure
removal of existing headache. The most beneficial points for each condition
vary,generally the thilartha marma and natachatira marmas are effective in
severe cases significantly ,
Vd.
Pritam Bharat Veer:
Shirashul - Shul is due to Vaat prakop. Where
there is vat prakop shul also present. Shul can exaggerated when kaf or pitta
come in path of vata dosh. So when there is pitta prakopak lakshna like
amlapitta the shul is Vaat Pittaj Shul. Treat accordingly for vatpradhan pitta shirashul give vatvidwans along with
pittashamak chikitsa. I used to give shirshuladi vJra ras along with praval ,
duralabha , ananta. When head which is area of Kafa there you can gi e kaf har
dravyas like kantakari. Just find out the reason of shirshula and treat accordingly.
Dr. Sharmila
Kulkarni: Used to
suggest Pathyadi kashayam for pittaj
shirshool. ie. Ardhavabhedak I have been using it in my practice
since last 18 years with almost 100percent results
Ayulink: How long you need to give it? and
what is the dose?
Dr.
Sharmila Kulkarni:
Sir, it is 2teaspoon 3times a day for almost 2weeks depending upon the intensity.
Off course diet control is of utmost importance. Some Srunsan like Avipattikar
churna can also be given along with.
Ayulink: I saw a file from a neuro-physician
for headache....now modern doctors also recommend to stop tomatoes, curd,
pickle, salt, spicy food. When in our Ayurveda practice, we differentiate
headache with different dosha imbalance and suggest the diet and activity
accordingly. Can we make a general diet control guideline?
Branko
Markovic: Did anyone
try method by Vaidy Balendu Prakash? His theory is that any migraine or
headache can be controlled by regulating pittashaya and yakrut also pitta
reducing diet.
Helga
Fuchs: Most of
headache is due Stress. If feet and toes are cold give strict rest to the
Patient and a hot water bottle. And cover your head and forehead with a soft
towel. After some time bring the hot water-bottle from toes to the neck. Most headaches
will go without problems if you do this early enough. If it is to late maybe
vomiting can accrue, but after patient will relax with deep sleep. This is not
by migraine; this is by Vata and coldness in head. By migraine avoid coliflower
and Broccoli to. To find out about what is the headache, if you cover the head,
if headache is due heat, headache get stronger in short time. Then for Shure do
not cover the head. Only work with hot water-bottle on cold toes too. Headache
due Sinusitis is most due mucus and inflammation. Both need a regulation of
agni due lifestyle and food, no way out.
Dr.
Supratim Bir:
Yesterday in my opd I found a Pt with headache. Flexion of neck was a bit
painful. I did Agnikarma in cervical region 4 points & the pain was gone. Most of the time Dehydration is the main cause
for headache. Nasya is always helpful in headaches.
Dr. Siva
Kumar: What is the
mode of agnikarma? shita or ushna,as ushnakarma lead to further dehydration.
Dr.
Navneeth Krishnan:
Sir what's the mode of action of agni karma there, is it just the usna Guna
countering vata?? Or is there any other reason.
Vd.
Dhruti Nirav Bhatt:
Shirsh shul we should find dosh prakop . Ahar vihar history and digestion
history is main . Because due to constipation Vayu prakop occurs and indigestion cause Headache. In
that case we should give laxative like Erand bhrist haritaki in early morning
with warm water ,Pathyadikwath empty stomach . shirahshulari vajra ras Shankhvati after meal .Shadhbindu oil Nasya
. In Pittaj Shirahshul patient has history like burning,nausea and pittprakopak
food intake .In that case we should advise
to stop :Fermented Food, Curd, Spicy and food, Bakery items. Sutsekhar
Ras empty stomach , Avipattikar ,Shatavari before meal and one laxative like
Triphala or swadist virechan gives very good result . Cow ghee Nasya. Kaphaj headache
: symptoms like Cold cough, Sinusitis . Food: stop Cold things like ice-cream, cold drinks, chocolate,
Bakery items, chees, Junk food. Advise to take warm water or Sunthi siddh water
, warm food items. Sitopaladi, Godanti bhasma with ginger ras and honey , Laxmi
vilas ras, Hingwastak after meal gives good results. Nasya with Shadabindu oil
,head massage.
Dr. Jaya
Sambhus: Many times
shirshul is just symptom we have to find out exact cause or प्रवर व्याधी. suryavart having pitt raktatmak samprapti , when pt
comes in attack go for raktmokshan from ext jugular vein , it works as instant
pain reliever n sometime permanent tt too
Dr.
Amrish A Shah:
Shadbindoo Oil Nasya Give best Results in my Pt
Ayulink: In acute headache: Do we have any treatment, herb or formula
which can work faster like paracetamol? or do we have any medicine cheaper then
paracetamol?
Usually
paracetamol works in 1 hour and costs max Rs. 2/- . If we can provide faster or
cheaper solution, people will definitely come to us in acute condition. I have
tried several times with Godanti bhasma. It works. But not in all condition.
Dr. V B.
Maheshwari: Cephagrain
(charak pharma) nasal drops gives good result in many patients.
Your point
is very good but if a patient came to opd in emergency condition then what
should I advise. I my opinion we should find some good medicines which we can
use as emergency medicine. Rasa kalpana is unique example of this. Rasa
aushadhi gives good results and in less time. Earlier there are many Ayurvedic injections
are available but due to lack of research now not a single injection is
available in market.
Helga
Fuchs: If emergency
condition its given, yes, work with ayurvedic possibilities.
Dr. Rajendra
Joshi: Cephagrain is
useful in migraine
Vd Limesh
Khatri: I have seen
many patient who doesn’t get relive even after vasograin and tranquilizer too.
Dr. Siva
Kumar: I want to
know rasausadhas which r effective immediately in shirasula. Among the kastausadhis
I have got good relief wt bathua,eranda kalka. Acc. to my view Ayurveda lags
behind emergency management as to prescribe drugs for Coma patient, instant
relief of headache if the cause is migraine etc., but narcotics drugs can
manage it instantly
Vd Limesh
Khatri: Shirashuladi
vajraras With Ardrak swars. Local application Amrutdhara.
Dr. Siva
Kumar: Synergistic
effect!
Dr.
Bhavini Raja: Oil?
Or ointment?
Dr. V B.
Maheshwari: Roll on
Dr. Dhara
Trivedi: Locally
snehan-oil application and then swedan
is also beneficial.
Ayulink: Amrutdhara? what is it? a medicine?
or dhara treatment?
Dr. V B.
Maheshwari: It's a
roll-on for local application.
Dr.
Sharmila Kulkarni:
For Pittaj shirshool, coconut water shirodhara gives instant results
Vd.
Sachin Kadlag: For
pittaja shirashula , sutshekhar stat gives results , many times alone I have found useful in
reducing shirashula within 10 to 15 minutes , sometimes along with praval
panchamruta has been used in kaphavataja or tridoshaja shirashula pathyadi
kwatha or pathyadi ghana vati is found useful in most of the cases and
immediate relief within 20 to 25 minutes.local lepan at forehead with vacha or vishwa or combination of both
is found useful kaphavata dominat shirashula.
Dr.
Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: In pittaj shir:shool, Sirolepan
with Chandan n Mrugshrung pishti or paste
made by rubbing the whole part on
a slate of Marble or granite stone and made fine. In Vaataj, Sunthi Vacha kaand, Jaiphal, fine pishti or
paste made same way. Kaphaj - Vacha Sunth paste. all made with little lukewarm
water n applied whn a little warm. But Nasya works best Anu tel or
Panchendriyavardhan oil, regular use. Suvarn
Sutshekhar + Jawahar mohara pishti+ praval panchamrut or Praval pishti
chandrputi, all made in2 fine paste with honey repeatedly ingesting by licking
like avleh..in Migrain or Ardhavbhedak which has just started. if too much time
has passed since presentation of pain, or the pain is tolerated and if it
doesn't go away after regular sleep, then strong painkiller injection needed. some
pts have very low pain thresholds beyond which no ingested medicine works, only
injected 1s work to alleviate pain.
Dr.
Supratim Bir: As it's apta THAT without involvement of Vata
the pain is impossible, so I think it's the simple counter action of usna
against sheeta guna of Vata. I said Dehydration as one of the common causes of Headache. Agnikarma can't lead to Dehydration. Agnikarma
is so effective in pain management that I wonder how it has been ignored by the
Vaidyas so long!
Dr.
Abdulla Mohammad juma: I'm practicing the hejama which I have seen very effective result for
treating the headache and other pain in the body. Hejama it is the removing
waste and clotted blood from the head and othere area from the body
767: Any type pain of body. Special migraine headache completely
relief. Rakt mokshan vidhi. Hijama cupping therapy.
Ayulink: Ayurveda doctors are not very
familiar with cupping therapy. But it is practiced in many part of the world
effectively. How cupping therapy can help in migraine or shirshul management?
Dr.
Abdulla Mohammad juma: When we do hejama the all toxin it will come out with blood and improve
the circulation in the area after that therapy pain will reduced and most of the time you will very dark blood come out and patient
will get immediate relieve of the headache and also it very useful for un
controlled hypertension patient if he is doing every three month on the head.
Dr. V B.
Maheshwari: So we
should do cupping over affected part only or any where over body?
Dr.
Navneeth Krishnan:
Sir Does dry cupping also relives headache??
Dr.
Gayatri: To kya hum
cupping therapy har doshaj prakriti me use kr sakte h because as per sahinta
har doshaj prikriti ke lie rakt mokshan ka different type h
Dr.
Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: Margavrodhajanya Vaatorakop, if
cause of pain, works best. if Dhaatukshayjanya vaat prakopa then we cnt
try with good prognosis.,may increase actually. pain n problem. Viddha with
hollow needles applies same principle. Viddhagni and better still Agnikarma
works best if Dhaatukshayjanya vaat prakop causing pain.
Dr.
Navneeth Krishnan:
Great explanation mam. Thank you. Mam Please tell y agni karma in
dhatukshaya vata and mode of action ?
Dr. Amrish
A Shah: Apamarg
kshar 10mg +Godanti Bhasma 10mg+Yastimadu Powder 100mg give bid dose Results is
Good
Vd.
Hardik bhatt: Hezama
gives very good results but at head area I had not done yet. Any complication
sir. Pls guide ...
767: No complications Very safe. If early
morning Empty stomach Other wise Nausea vomiting & vertigo giddiness
Anália
Meirelles: This is
for headache?
Dr.
Abdulla Mohammad juma: Dry cupping therapy lt will not give any result for headache and patient
has to be stop food and drinking two hours before the procedure and after
hejama he has to stop exercise and sex for three days after that patient he
will feelings active in all of his body and regarding our Muslim religion
profet Mohammed advice us to do hejama days of 17,19;21of Arabic calender
after middle of the month because there is relation between our humen body and
the moon and in this three days our blood will throw maximum waste from our
body and other day we can do it but only NBM two hour before hejama .we
can do hejama on the pain area and also
we have specific area in the body for each disease sometimes hejama will cured
the illness and sometimes patient will get relieve for six month or one year or
pain and disease will disappear from patient body, along life.
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Dr. Tejendra Singh: Nasya of Almond oil , head massage with almond oil also helpful in Shirashul. Nasya of cow ghee. Nasya with swarasa of Vitex negundo leaves.
Dr. Tejendra Singh: Nasya of Almond oil , head massage with almond oil also helpful in Shirashul. Nasya of cow ghee. Nasya with swarasa of Vitex negundo leaves.
Vd. Avni
Kaneria: Headache
related to stress - shiro-dhara is best
Vd.
Divyakumari solanki:
Nasya with goughrita, Pathyadi kwatha
Vd.
Sureshbhai Chavda:
Ayurveda, however, categorically defines the different headaches, as Vaataj,
pittaj, Kaphaj or Sannipataj. Added to that Ardhavbhedak (pain in half head)
& suryavarta (pain that increases with rising sun & decreases with
setting sun) have been beautifully defined.
Rukshashanadadhyashanatpragwatavashya
maithune: I
Vegsandharana
yas vyaame:kupitoaanil: II
Kwala:
sakafo waardh grihitwa shirsou wali I
Manya
bhrushankh karma ksilalatardheshu vednam II
Shashtrashani
nibham kuryattibramsoardhavabhedak:” I
- Yog Ratnakar- Shirorog.
The meaning
of the above stanza is coarse and dry diet, eating up in heavy quantities,
taking on the easterly wind in enormous measures, getting drenched up in dew
excessive of sexual activities, keeping the call of nature on hold, the wind
getting furious by dint of exercises and labour becoming stronger alone or in
combination with the cough takes into its grips the ½ portion of the head
producing such a terrible pain in the parts as if somebody is slashing the head
with a very sharp edged weapon or somebody is churning the head from inside
within with a thorny churner.
Treatment:
Pathyadi kwath,shirshuladi vati, godanti, mukta pisti, sutshekhar ras, vatvidhvansh
ras, avipatikar churna etc use
Dr. Vivek D. Shah: 1)Pathyadi ghanvati 2)Sutsekhar
ras.. These two drug r enough to cure all type of shirashool. Then after add
anupan according to types of shirashool. Anupan dravya makes the difference.
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Compiled by: Dr.Dhruti Kagrana
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