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Kasa (Coughing)....causes and #ayurveda treatments



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Sub.:  Kasa (Coughing)....causes and #ayurveda treatments

Group 3:
Vd. Mahesh Akani - Palanpur: A pregnant young lady, Sharad rutu, madhyahn time , severe KAS ..... I advised her to take only sugar. & she felt relaxed.......many of the case of Kas result depend on perfect diagnosis......As Kshayaj kas sometimes cured by sweet (HALVA) & chronic Kas cured by kantakari ghrut.

Dr. Minoo parabia: Coughing causes: irritation of mucosa, Duodenal reflux, Rhinitis, Bacterial infection,
Bronchitis, Reduced cardiac function,
Best are vasa, bharangi, bibhitaki, peeparimool, ark, udumber, damvel, unnab, sunthi, curcuma, aswattha, saubhagyapushpa etc. We use fresh decoction or putpak swarasa of few of above.

Germany Helga Fuchs: Kasa with mucus or dry Kasa. Chronic cough.... Many cause factors are given,  I have only experience by cough due,  Pneumonia, Lungproblems due tryness, mucus or and Inflamation, Bronchitis.
Ama in amashaya (stomach) is problem by common cough. Weakness of the lungs is by wrong lifestyle for long time. Vata, Kapha, first aid stop cold and heavy food, take rest, hot water with pinch of black pepper, long one, no citrus, no banana, no milk products at all. no meat . Fasting is easy because hunger is not much due less agnostic., Vata no fasting only good easy digesting food and rest. Juice of lemon, ginger, and honey one tsp each, excellent for dry kasa, milk with pippali 1-21days and back. Add pippali each day more and reduce each day back to one after 21 days. With this pippali cure I do not have personal experience. Ginger-honey-lemon very good results by patients who have dry Kasa for more as tree months. First week 4xday, then 3x, then 2x, beetween meals but min 1 hour befor or after food.  By mucuskasa and Bronchitis very good results with paste of curcuma (haldi) and honey, half teaspoon and 1ts honey 3x day after food. In pneumonia first we have antibiotic for 10 days up on constitution and if patient is in real bad condition. Total rest. After some days starting with Neti (nose) to relax the brain and Meditation, then with lemongingerhoney, after if he is better and stronger  with haldihoney for months. This repairs and build up the bronchioles and agni. Later we start some virechana and basti. After one year, same again.

Vd. Mahesh Akani: Some Vaidya says that madanphal + yastimadhu + Madhu for Kaphaj kas

Mr. Ashish amin: To everyone I'm not belongs medical profession but my senior IAS friend tipped off me when swain flue were on full swing three mixture of Sudarshan Yasti madhu and Amruta each 1 tps mix with two or three tps honey better in  any viral fever including swain flue these mixer Bost up immune system neutrally

Dr. minoo parabia: In pleurisy we use mamro badam (almond from Afghanistan) and Styrax benzoin / Singapuri loban with betel leaves. Good even for ascites.  My child hood memory for treating cough by my father.....15 leaves of vasa + Ginger + Turneric + Ajwain + Licorice + Peeprimool + Catechu + Clove.
All dry materia to be wrapped up in leaves and the pack in its turn wrapped with several layers of wet cloth. Insert the package in wooden heath burning fire till cloth catches fire. Pull the pack out. Unwrap and empty the cooked material in mortar. Crush with pestle. Squeeze the juice. Add honey in equal measure. Could be stored for a week. 5ml 3 to 4 times a day gives remarkable results. Coupled with goat milk Abhrak bhasma chhagladi ghrita cures tuberculosis. I request the usage. Presently in absence of wooden fire. We make decoction and ferment the liquid. Equally good.  Ashishbhai's kalp is good.
Helga's devotion and zeal are highly commendable. She is an ambassador for Ayurveda in Germany.

Vd. Kunal Manek: Chandramritrasa and talisadi churna with honey is a better solution for kaphaj kaas

Group 5:
Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: Kasa:- Mainly prana and udan vayu dusti, Excessive dust, fumes exposures, Ruksh Anna seven, Ativyayam, Anna Vimarg gamana..
T/t:-Lavangadi vati, Yashtimadhu Ghanavati, Vasadi vati, Eladi vati, Shitopladi Churna, Talisadi Churna,
Dashmool Kwath, Vyadhri Haritaki.
Mr. Punit Agrawal New Delhi: Is talishadi churna recommended in dry cough or wet cough?
Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: Talishadi Churna contain Talisha, Marich, Sunthi, Pippali, Vanshlochana, Ela, Twak and sharkara. Above drugs some drug having Laghu,Tikshna guna and some having snigdha guna.Their vipaka and virya is also Katu - ushna and madhura - shita. So as per my suggestion we recommend talishadi in both type of cough.

Group 4:
Vd. Rajal shukla: One of the cause for coughing is smoking found very good result kofsam tablet 2-0-2
Combination of Vasa ext.,kantkari ext.,Sitopaladi churna as per Charak sanhita, Yastimadhu, kushtha, Vacha, Kantakari kshar, Haridra and Tulsi

Dr. Nehal Shah: 1:-Common causes for Kasa :-Kashay, pichchhil, Asatmya, katu, Amla, lavana,  ushna, Ruksh, Shit, guru, snigdh, kled yukta, vasi Anna, inhabits mist- smoke, exercise, vegadharan, parishram, Divaswap,Ratri jaagran.
2:-Specific causes:- which increase Vayu, pitta, kapha, those caused by lung injury and those caused by wasting (kshayaj).

Vd. Mukesh Mehta: What about them who don't smoke & have continues cough?is above mention medicine ok?

Vd. Nita Goswami: Chandramrut ras and kantkari avleh give best result in kasa

Vd. Rajal shukla: Can give sanshamani vati and Tribhuvan Kirit ras and Kofsam tablet
I found sanshamani vati 1-1-1 at a same time reduce ESR. Whenever found ESR in any kind of disease like coughing,Aamvat, Vatrakt even Agantuk vyadhi Give Sanshamani a vati 3 times a day at same time means everyday morning 9 o'clock than follow same time at next day

Vd Pranjlin Kavar: Vasa swaras with honey will also give good result

Group 6:
Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: kasa- dry : kantakari leha, whoopin syp,agatsya rasayan,drakshovin,
productive- sitopladi+vacha+tankan+pippali
if kasa due to copd-rasayan agnidipan brimhan, bharangyadi kwath, vasa haritaki leha, drakshovin, chyavanprash, if h/of T.B. In past can give sitopladi,pippali with ghrita+madhu, if agni is good ajashvagandhadi leha or ashvagandyarishth, abhrak bhasma+shrunga bhasma, in older pt dry cough sadhya sneha with tila taila+saindhav good very good results

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Kasa with fever in RTI- dwatridashang is drug of choice

Vd. Hardik- MD: I also get good result from this kwatha

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Punarnava is in kasahar dashemani and is drug of choice where kasa is due to congestion in lung because of LVF...Bhringraj is also good in COPD especially in bronchitis...

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: yes dashmula,punarnava,pushkarmula to be given in LVF, dwatridashang,pathyadi,gojihvadi etc acc. to dosh and avastha very can used. vasa svaras is best in pittaj condition

Group 2:
Dr. Rachana Mumbai: In clincal practice we come across 2 types of kasa 1. Is dry and 2. Is with cough (white, yellow, green). For dry cough urdhwa movement of vayu is responsible (is one of the reason) in this condition dashmula ghavati 2tds, bala tail drop 5 to 10 with warm water twice.
When is coughing very badly we can give stat 2 to 5drops orally. Gives good result only if it is due to vayu urdhwagaman. When there is cough -White cough - there are many drug of choice we can advice according to prakruti, desh, kaal etc of patient vyoshadi vati, kaph ketu rasa, bharangyadi kadha, dashmula haritaki leham, agastya haritaki leham, yashtimadhu, kantkari ghanvati
If yellow or green cough add rasa sindoor along with combination of above mentioned kalps.
Permutations and combinations of above kalp gives desired results

Vd. Hardik bhatt: Chitrak haritaki avaleha   Or kantakari avaleha or vyaghri haritaki avaleha are good combinations for Kasa

Dr Harendra Thakkar Pulmologist: I often use "sitopaladi  churna to  be equally mixed with honey (Chatan) which is to be taken on empty stomach first in the morning for persistent cough not releived with cough suppressant and Expectorants in cases of bronchitis and some of the fibrosis patients.

Dr. monaliben: We can get good results by Yashtimadhu, tulsi, vasa, kantkari, trikatu

Group 1:
Mr. Anand Javeri: According to me, the best treatment for common cold & cough is ADEQUATE REST, preferably a GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP

Australia Vd. Khushdil: For Coughing.... Ccording to Chikitsa Sutra..snehan, warran and Saman...With help of kantkari ghrutam, vasaavaleh, yastimadhu or Triphla combination, shrung bashma giving very good result, Talispatradi choornam also can be use for Svedan

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