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Views of experts on Water consumption according to #Ayurveda

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USA Gary Yuen: Does anyone have info about how to determine much water or liquids one should consume daily? Does any ayurvedic text say anything?

Satyen: Modern science suggests 1.5 ltrs which includes tea, milk, liquid food etc
 Over consumption will put more load on kidneys.. And will also have psychological effect due to imbalance in jal tatva in body.. I. Presume

USA Gary Yuen: Perhaps volume of liquid varies with dosha and amount of mouvenent or exercise. I'm not even sure if some ayurvedic doctors agree with modern estimates of liquid intake.

Dr. S. K. Rai: Yes Ayurveda firmly believes in the bioidentity of the patients before prescription. That is prakriti

USA Gary Yuen: Yes. Though any more precise information seems hard to find. Maybe according to fatigue? Modern doctors say if you're tired, that could be not enough liquids.
 Are there any physical symptoms that determine if one is taking too little or too much liquids?

 Dr. S. K. Rai: We know our body is abundant in "sneh Sara" that's why before detoxification process, as the age increases there is fall in "sneh".
That is "Kaphaj" at the time of birth, "Pittaj" in the middle age (youth) finally "Vataj", we see there is depletion in "sneh"ansh.
Hence quantity of water is decided according to the age and prakriti rather than diseases.
 Dr. Uday H. Hanagal: Trusna (Thirsty) is one of the Prakrutika Vega (Natural Urge) according to the Ayurveda Science, When Person feels Thirsty then only he can drink Water according to his need (depends on Prakruti) & Satisfaction etc.
Adhika Trusna seen in Pittaja dominant Diseases & Pittaja Dominant Prakruti Peoples because of their body needs that much of Water (Jala Mahabhuta).

Dr. S. K. Rai: Further I firmly believe that quantity of fluids should be increased as the day progresses.
Fluid should be maximum between 3pm to 5 pm. This is the transition phase of Pitt to Vaat. That is consumption of fluids should be enhanced as the day progresses.

 Anand Javeri: According to me, if your physical activity is more, you need to consume more water.
Don't know fixed quantity.
Moreover, our urine colour says a lot whether we are properly hydrated or not.
 If the urine colour is off white or like water, it shows we are over hydrated.
If it is pale yellow, it says we are properly hydrated.
If it is dark, it shows we are less hydrated.
 So, we should always monitor our urine colour.

 Dr. Uday H. Hanagal: Swastha Purusha can feel proper thirst but not in diseased person so according to Shastra we can tell them when & how much quantity of Water they can drink according to the Dashavidha Pareeksha Dosha, Dushya, Bala, Kala, Vaya, Prakruti, Agni, Satva, Satmya, Different Avastha of Aahara & Aushadha (Astanga Hrudaya Sutra Sthana).

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: मुहुँर मुहुँर पिबेद वारि भुरी -भा.प्र.
Water should be drank frequently in less quantity..
Water boiled to one fourth quantity releives pitta, half of its quantity releives vata and boiled till one fourth is pacifies Kapha..- Bhav prakasha
Water boiled till one fourth is known as AROGYAMBU(Healthy water).
If boiled water is drunk at night, it pacifies both kapha and Vata and it relieves indigestion immediately...

Canada Nitin Shah: It is better to sip the water throughout the day. When we feel thirst it is a sign of dehydration at cellular level. Depending on the season and dosha we should consume the water. Those who predominates with Vata, should sip warm water, pitta can consume room temperature to little cold water in summer season and Kapha don't t need the same amount as other needs as they have a tendency to retain the water.  See what is said Muhur Muhur…Here the key word is sip and not drink. It is said chew the water and drink the food.

Satyen: When many brains contribute... Quality comes out.  Silent members please share your thoughts on water.

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: It's depends on person day to day lifestyle
Water should be taken into small amount and frequently
Before and after meals must be in small amount
Minaral water is debatable issue
Urine colour is best indication of lack of water require ment
Herbal medicine water canbe used
Like south Indian dose

 Vd. Binal Jagani: In obesity any role of water consumption quantity and time in daily routine??

Canada Nitin Shah: Yes, agreed. dark coloured urine is a sign of concentration   And sign of dehydration
In obesity I suggest just to sip warm water throughout the day. In the morning 2-3 glasses of warm water with lemon juice or cumin water and throughout the day small amount sipping.

Dr. Bhadresh Naik: In obesity hot water is indication

Canada Nitin Shah: I have noticed here the oriental people drink warm herbal water throughout the day and hardly you see any obese person
Mostly they drink green tea or ginger tea

Dr. Shriniwas Gujjarwar: Normal fluid intake output ratio is :
 Intake = output + 500 ml.
 3000ml =2500 + 500 ml

 Dr. Ravindra Upadhyay: Yes. Obese person drinking a lot of water causes weak digestive fire, which in turn causes Dhatwagnimandya ( derranged metabolism) leading to increase in obesity. Instead if obese drinks hot water, it helps to reduce wt. It is a wrong notion that drinking a lot of water helps, it is harmful.

Vd. Nidhi Awasthy: अजीणेृ भेषजं वारी , जीणेृ वारी बल पृदम
भोजने चामृतं वारी भोजनांते विष पृदम

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: अजीँणस्य किम् औषधम?
- निंद्रा, वारी भेषजम्.
Here hot water should be given..

Vd. Nidhi Awasthy: It's a reference from vaidhyakiya subhashitani sir

Dr. Arvind Shahane: If obese person takes lots of water, can't take more food. Then digest fat

Dr Jaydeep: But its classical reference , I think in bhaishajya ratnavali that drinking lots of normal water before meal in obase person.

Dr. Arvind Shahane: And if drinking lots of normal water after food, increase cough dosh, become obse also

Dr. Pritish Naik: Acc to अष्टांग ह्रदय.....
पिबेत्स्वस्थोऽपि चाल्पशःSutrasthan 5/१४
Exception is for sharad and grishma rutu

Vd. Sandeep J. Prasad: In trushna hot soil utensil soaked water is advised.

Nigeria Mr. M. Gopikrishna: In order for to control obesity,if like half of stomach is filled with with water than food intake also would be less and will result in weight coming down!
If water is taken in between meals,then the weight of the person is like medium
If water is being taken after food,more chances of obesity,weightgain
 Dr Kusum Pawse: For obesity water 10 min before food. For good digestion in between meals. And shld take half hour after food.water from copper utensil helps for iron absorption.in water retention extra fluids to be taken to wash out toxins.
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Compilation courtesy: Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara


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