Tuesday, December 29, 2015

Traditional uses of Methi (Fenugreek) - a kitchen spice… as an #ayurvedic medicine

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Today's topic for discussion:  Once again Traditional uses of Methi (Fenugreek) - a kitchen spice… as an  #ayurvedic medicine

Rayomand Parabia: V use methi seeds purified in milk…It's giving good results

Jyotsnaben Rawal: Methi is the best galactogoggue home remedy.all the prasuta (pregnant) women have to take methi in any form 2-3months after pregnancy.it also inhibits the backeche.removes the  uterine impure' blood ,shamans the uterine dhoshas and  normalise the uterine function.

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Methi has nutritional as well as metabolic value...its increase agni. I think it especially works on asthi dhatu agni, so its helpful in calceneal spur or other bony spur.. Methi is essential contain of Gujarati Dal, methi having Bitter taste(tikta rasa) that balance other taste...
Gujarati Dal-- Methi- tikta rasa, Tuver dal- kashaya rasa, Jaggery/sugar- madhur rasa, Nimboo/ imali- amla rasa, salt- lavana rasa, hari mirch- katu rasa... If we add methi in Dal then it makes shad-rasa (six tastes) preparation..

Argentina Dr. Fany Rosman: Hi Prerak each morning I take 1 Tea spoon of fenugreek seed + flax+ chia. This improve my high colesterol levels. I Belive that also may lower glucose levels.

USA - Vd. Sucheta:  I use methi seeds in my hair oil.Also in hair mask.

Dr. Ashish Dholakia: I have only experience of mathi is to be Consumed during winter

Anand Javeri: I've heard that if 1tsp methi seeds are consumed before bed, then they release all the accumulated gas in our body the next morning. And the stool also passes with ease. Specially beneficial for cardiac patients & aged people. I've also heard that people soak 1tsp methi seeds in water & consume it the following morning. It gives energy.  Have also heard that methi has steroidal properties.

Sunil Sharma : For me methi and ajvain has been quite useful in knee and joint pain . Now I take it very irregularly in a day .

Chanod Swami Vijay: I am using every night it helps me in gas trouble

Dr Bhagyashri Panchal: Methi is commonly taken by the persons with knee joint pain....it also gives result

Dr. Kamlesh: Sprouted methi dana is more effective then seeds. We can use it in all vata aggrieved conditions and diabetes Mellitus type 2 management.

Dipak Padia Osho:  250 gr Methi seeds, 100 gr Ajwain seeds and 50 gr Kali jiri….
 I am using this combination and found miracle result with personal use…. It has shown benefits in more then 15 conditions.

Dr. Satyendra Sharma: I have taken this combination myself and provided several people, it is very beneficial for abdomen obesity

Dr. Ashish Dholakia: Any documented evidence for this?

Vd. Nischal Pandya: It is good in agnimandhya n  good for health

Ayurveda Garden Kanubhai Yogi: Very interesting group....getting useful informatioms from the experts..Thanks

Anand Javeri: Somewhere Mr. Prasad wrote about some combination with methi which is beneficial for abdomen  obesity.  Please throw some light on ABDOMEN OBESITY.

Sunil Sharma: Abdominal obesity, also known as beer belly, beer gut, pot belly, front butt, spare tyre or clinically as central obesity, is when excessive abdominal fat around the stomach and abdomen has built up to the extent that it is likely to have a negative impact on health. There is a strong correlation between central obesity and cardiovascular disease.

CAUSES OF OBESITY
The currently prevalent belief is that the immediate cause of obesity is net energy imbalance—the organism consumes more usable calories than it expends, wastes‚ or discards through elimination. Some studies indicate that visceral adiposity, together with lipid dysregulation and decreased insulin sensitivity,is related to the excessive consumption of fructose.Greater meat consumption has also been positively associated with greater weight gain, and specifically abdominal obesity, even when accounting for calories.
Alcohol consumption
A study has shown that alcohol consumption is directly associated with waist circumference and with a higher risk of abdominal obesity in men, but not in women, in the present population ....
MEDICINAL USES OF FENUGREEK ( METHI )
Fenugreek seeds Trigonella foenum-graecum
Fenugreek is much used in herbal medicine, especially in North Africa, the Middle East and India. Research has shown that the seeds can inhibit cancer of the liver, lower blood cholesterol levels and improve insulin sensitivity.
Due to its estrogen-like properties, fenugreek has been found to help increase libido and lessen the effect of hot flashes and mood fluctuations that are common symptoms of menopause and PMS. In India and China it has also been used to treat arthritis, asthma, bronchitis, improve digestion, maintain a healthy metabolism, increase libido and male potency, cure skin problems (wounds, rashes and boils), treat sore throat, and cure acid reflux. Fenugreek also has a long history of use for the treatment of reproductive disorders, to induce labor, to treat hormonal disorders, to help with breast enlargement, and to reduce menstrual pain. Recent studies have shown that Fenugreek helps lower blood glucose and cholestrol levels, and may be an effective treatment for both type 1 and 2 diabetes. It is also being studied for its cardiovascular benefits.......

According to a recent study conducted in India, it has been found that Methi powder and yoga can be used to treat diabetes. The fenugreek seeds consist of an amino acid which can start the production of insulin in the body which in turn can help you to lower the level of blood sugar. Methi powder can be used to avoid the type 2 diabetes as it aids in controlling the metabolism of glucose in the body. The side effects related to fenugreek is very uncommon, provided a person consumes it in moderation. Hence it is imperative to take the suggestion of your doctor, before including fenugreek in your treatment plan for diabetes, so that he can ensure that it will not hamper the absorption rate of the other medications, if any, that are consumed by you for the diabetes treatment.. When taken with meals, fenugreek can slow how quickly the body absorbs sugars. One amino acid that is found in fenugreek has been reported to increase the production of insulin when blood sugar rises. This is not saying a diabetic can take fenugreek instead of insulin....

Anand Javeri: Thanks for your courtesy Sunilbhai Sharma …about abdomen obesity.

Dr. P. A. Deshpande: Sprouted methi seeds and moong in proportion of 1:1 is very much useful in detoxification and nutrition. I am using it for lever detoxification and in cancer as a nutritional supplement. Sprouted methi seeds are also used in diabetes and high blood pressure. Juice of methi leaves is used in medicinal bath for the patients of cancer, rheumatoid arthritis and psoriasis in combination with other alkaline inputs with ozone. Thick paste of methi leaves is used for arthritis for topical application like mehendi.

Rajal shukla: Good for replecement of calcium…..good in Hair fall….Good results with combination with Sunthi in backpain……Garbhashay sankochk …..So gives side effect in aartavadhikya

Exi kir: Methi is "Vayu Nashak". Moreover, it is a good medicine for "Diabetes". It is my personal experience that when I eat "Thepala made with Methi leaves" in my dinner, I do not face constipation next day.

Pt. Nirali Kaushal Shah: Good for stomach ache

Dr. Dipa Mehta: It is very useful in digestive disorder. Haridra, methi and sunthi very good combination for obesity, skin problems, aamj vyadhi.
Sujok Nivruttiben Pandya: To enhance Hemoglobin have fenugreek  (methi ) after both major meals.

Vd. Rupa Raval: Fenugreek is very good hair conditioner

Rita Chmpwat : How use methi for dayabities

Dr. Sudhir shah (neuro): Drs use merhi for DM and arthritis ; relatives of pt use to haress Drs ! :D ;D ;D

Shrikalp Deshpande: Methi powder is good in Arthritis and GIT constipation.

Sales Tax Dhvanish Shah: I use it some time for Stomach problem

Prof. Siddharth Panchal - L J Pharmacy: Methi has an active component Diosgenin which has been proved for its anti-arthritic activity as well as anti-diabatic activity.. It has anti-inflammatory activity so helpful in arthritis or other inflammatory disorders..

Dr. Hardik- MD: My research topic is chaturbeeja churna  and nirgundi taila  matra basti in management of gridhrasi(sciatica). methika seed is ingredient of chaturbeeja churna. I have got wonderful result in 30 patient.

Vd. Ritaben Nadiad: Dr hardik  share ur experience with us and how to use chturbij churn and nirgundi oil

Dr. Hardik- MD: Chaturbija churna 4gm dialy twice with hot water  before meal….Nirgundi tail matra basti 60 ml at evening after dinner about 6 to 7 pm….Matra basti has 3 sitting….Matra basti is given by me for 3 weeks with 2 days interval after every week

Vd. Dipam Tripathi: Methi is vaatkaph nashak and pitt kopak....so keep this in mind....who take methi for arthritis and complaing for acidity…..Its balya also....so  methi laddu in winter....its helpful in osteoarthritis... jwar (mild fever),
Its useful for 'prasuta'...(after delivery) ....
Vd. Prerak Shah: Being an experience Vaidya and practitioners I would like you all to comment on different anupana with methi in different conditions. And why is it so?

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: Methi as tea / decoction for sandhivat or vatvaydhi (arthritis)

Vd. Prerak Shah: @ Manahar: why methi tea in ssandhi-vata?

Vd. Manhar Prajapati:  Methi is Ushna virya…effective on vata dosha

Vd. Prerak Shah: When u boil methi and make extraction, a steroid called diosgenin is released in water, which works better on pain. That's why if u want to use methi as pain killer, it is better to give in tea form.

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: Good info sir๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

Shri Minoo parabia: Very true. For prolonged use, it is a practice in our family to mitigate Methi by soaking in cows milk for 3 days. Strain and discard milk. We used sudh Methi in our preparation Osteonic meant for Arthritis.  I have found it better. Changes need study.

Bunty Gandhi: Beside thsese, Methi powder for hair wash. Useful in dandruff as our elders says in home...

Dr. Rajnish MP: methi powder & souf powder isuseful in obesity

Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: Whole methi seeds are useful to stop diarrhoea

Shri Minoo parabia: Commendable information is emerging out. Keep it up ๐Ÿ˜Š

Vd. Hardik bhatt: Fenugreek - methi Dana with castor oil tea gives good result in constipation ,aam condition , and controls vata.

Dr Dipak Shirude: I always advice some home preparations to some of my patients .. For Diabetics ..Put some methika seeds in warm water for 6 hours .
Soak them out and let them dry under roof or early morning sunlight .
Grind them but not much fine ( like Rawa or soji ) . Fry that powder in little quantity of cow ghee . Keep this in a glass container . One can take this 1/2 to 1 tspoon with warm water up to thrice a day .. It depends on the other medicines the patient is consuming .. This is simple and easy and the most important is that it is fresh and genuine . Methika seeds, Ajwan seeds, Krishna jeerak seeds
all powders Some patients take this combination for stomach ailments .. It acts as Aam pachak and stimulating to the peristaltic movements ..

This cool winter morning, we  eat a big methi laddu .. One can name it Methika Modak !! It’s recipe:  Methika beej, Kaju, Badam, Godambi, Pista, Khuskhus, Anjeer, Khareek, Khobara,  Salem mishri, Punjab mishri (both these are kinds of Musali), Dink (raisin of Babul tree), Gud, Cow Ghee …..This is the traditional formula. I am getting this since my childhood. This is a kind of prevention to vata diseases and to restore the energy by taking benefit of raised Agni in the winter !!

Vd. Ketan bhimani: "methi kahe hu mongha muli, range pili lagu. Maro vapras thai to va kahe hu bhagu."

Dr. Archna Panchal: Roasted methi powder with buttermilk best in intestine problems.

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: Daily supplements of an extract from Fenugreek may enhance female libido, say results of a double-blind randomized placebo controlled study.

A standardized extract of Trigonella foenum‐graecum was associated with significant increases in measures of sexual cognition, arousal, sexual behavior, sexual drive, and orgasm, according to findings published in Phytotherapy Research……..The study used Gencor’s Libifem ingredient and was funded by the company…….“The results of this clinical trial have demonstrated that the specialized extract of T. foenum-graecum seed extract (libifem) has a positive effect in enhancing sexual function in healthy menstruating women with self-reported low sexual function,” wrote researchers from The University of Sydney, the University of Queensland, the University of Southern Queensland, Integrated Health Group Pty Ltd, and Medlab Pty Ltd.

Saturday, December 26, 2015

Pippali (Lindi pipar) or piper longum…. the miracle #ayurveda herb

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Today's topic for discussion:  Pippali (Lindi pipar) or piper longum…. the miracle #ayurveda herb

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: I tried in hypothyroid… pt conceived after many years of marriage

Dr Dipak Shirude: Some patients suffering from recurrent URTI ( i.e. pranvah strotas vyadhi ) were treated satisfactorily with vardhamaan pippali Rasayan as well as chausashti pippali ..Pippali is widely used in various kalpas and have wonderful role on Agnee !! Pippalimul was used by me for sleep . stress etc disorders related to brain activities ... Nowadays I do not use choornas hence not used as before ...

Vd. Hardik bhatt: Vardhman pippli prayog I have used in bronchitis and platelet count disorder (thrombocytopenia)…

Vd. Ajay Pithiya: Vardhman pippali in shitpitta is best

Vd. Mahesh Akani: Laghu pipali prayog means daily 3 no with milk & water boil it & takes for 3 months I got very good result in paediatric KSHAY เค•्เคทเคฏ .

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Pippali has no nutritional value, it works on Agni.. Pippali is very good aam pachak..so its used in condition of Ama, and almost all auto immune disorders..

Vd. Manhar Prajapati: Shante agne mriyate...when agni balance than all is well...

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani:  Got extra ordinary results in Aamavat, sjogren…..
Pippali and jaggery are very Good in condition of Ajirna..it also useful in vardhamankrama in vatarakta

Vd. Prerak Shah: Pippali + ghee - very good vajikaran

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Pippali is yogwahi, pippali is imp content of trikatu. Trikatu is ingredient of many many ayurveda preparation. Yes sir pippali is very good Vrishya..pippali is good where Oligospermia is due to rasa ksaya…In ancient time, I think pippali is important herb of dietary article. So why charaka has described it in Annapana adhyaya... Further charak deny to use it (also alkali and salt) for long time in viman sthana. But for treatment purpose it can be used..as pippali is aapatbhadra-it can cause beneficial effect as well as harmful effect very quickly…Its Yogavagi- mean good Carrier for other herbs when its used with in combination….For vajikarana pippali should be used with anupan of milk and ghee…For kaphaj vyadhi, it should used with honey

Dr. Hardik- MD: Pippali has anushnshit virya and madhur vipaka so we can use pippali in all kind of auto immune disorder like rheumatoid arthritis, nephritic syndrome, cirrhosis of liver, sjogran syndrome, renal tubular acidosis etc. In our ayurveda we can take immunity as Prakrit kafa (bala) so in auto immunity disorder, immunity (bala) is bhransh(misguide) from its work. So in all kind of bala bhransha condition we can give rasayana therapy. So pippali is one of them rasayan dravya. So in this condition best way of pippali is used by vradhman prayoga with dugdha…Pippali is choice of drug for charak in sadhya vaman in javara, svasa, chardi roga

Vd. Bhavesh Thakkar: Nice interpretation..

Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: Other benefits of Pippali
-Cleanses the blood  -Increases digestion,Treats Manda Agni  -Treats skin disorders -Reduces Vata Nervous System disorders (anxiety, fear, worry, etc) -Enhances the memory and intellect (medhya) -Useful in epilepsy,headache..

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: 
Anticancer activity -ร  The alcohol extract of P. longum (10 mg/dose/animal) and piperine (1.14 mg/dose/animal) inhibits solid tumor development in mice induced with Dalton's lymphoma ascites cells and increases the life span of mice. Piperine was also found to be cytotoxic towards Dalton's lymphoma ascites and Ehrlich ascites carcinoma cells at 250 ฮผg/mL [22 and 23].

Antioxidant activity-ร P. longum exhibits promising antioxidant potential against free radical-induced oxidative damage. Petroleum ether extract of the root and piperine from roots of P. longum Linn. decrease lipid peroxide levels and maintain glutathione content, demonstrating antioxidant activity [24].

Hepatoprotective activity- ร The plant fruit extract was assessed in rodents for its hepatoprotective action against carbon tetrachloride-induced acute, chronic reversible and irreversible damage using morphological, biochemical, and histopathological parameters. The extract stimulates regeneration by restricting fibrosis, but offers no protection against acute damage or against cirrhosis. Piperine was found to protect against tertiary butyl hydroperoxide-induced and carbon tetrachloride-induced hepatotoxicity by reducing lipid peroxidation in vitro and in vivo [25 and 26].

 Anti-inflammatory activity - -ร A marked anti-inflammatory activity of P. longum fruit decoction has been reported using carrageenaninduced rat edema
Courtesy science direct. Com

Dr. Priti Vikas Agrawal: Gud imformations

Dr. Kiritbhai G.: Please, does pippali work on COPD?

Vd. Prerak Shah: Dr. Kiritbhai, I have good no of patients of COPD. I don't see more response of pippali in that cases. COPD is more Vata disease for me. It's vey ffern oditn from asthma or kapha disorder.

Dr. Kiritbhai G.: I want to know perfect drug for COPD

Vd. Prerak Shah: I don't have drug. I do Panchkarma. And it's beneficial. COPD can't be cured as it is not reversible condition, that's what I have heard.
Dr. vikram delhi: But Sir, Vata disorders are easy to manage n reverse, at least initially.. Anyone have tried Vardhman Pippali..

Vd. Mukesh Mehta: One who don't have good sleep can take pipperi churna with GUD - jaggary

Vd Pranjlin Kavar: Pipperimul churna also gives good result in anovulation.

Vd. Kalpesh Makvana - Surat: I got results in vitiligo with vardhman pipali

Vd Daxa Patel: Pippalimul churna and pippar churna both are very useful for women in sutika rogas and as postnetal care

Dr. Prakash B N Bangaluru: Pippali is advised in ksheerapaka form (not kashaya). The study done at our lab showed more active components in ksheerpaka than in kashaya.

Dr. Dipa Mehta: Pippali kshirpaka is very useful for metabolic disorders. It act as deepan and pachan…..It is useful in thyroid

Vd. Milan Prajapati: My one friend had successfully completed thesis on pipali and aamvata. He got excellent result in aamvata by the use of vardhman pipali prayog in 30 patients

Vd. Tushar Trivedi: I found Pippali very useful in Allergic rhinitis and bronchial asthma...useful in any condition emerged due to Aam dosha....

Dr. Lokesh Mehta: Pippali is excellent bioenhancer .  I have used it in asthma as ksheer pak  with good results. It can be given where there is Ra's dhatu kshay

Vd. Rupa Raval: If we use pippali as a one drug for long period because of its snigdha guna and ushna guna it will become couse of tridoshvardhana

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: เค…เคฅः เคค्เคฐीเคฃि เคฆ्เคฐเคต्เคฏाเคฃि เคจ เคช्เคฐเคฏोเคœ्เคฏ เคฎเคนเคคाเคจी เคชिเคช्เคชเคฒी เค•्เคทाเคฐ เคฒเคตเคฃं เค‡เคคि।  Continuous use of pippali for long duration is not good according to ayurveda.
Vardhman pippali prayog may be a good option for fatty infiltration in liver.....as always i have few things in mind as theory i never got chance to treat patient of fatty infiltration in liver by vardhman pippali.

Vd. Neha Dipam Tripathi: Vardhaman pipali also used in any kafaj diseases
In hypothyroidism , jirn pratishyay, Sotha


Dr. Rajnish MP: In all avrodha-janya diseases  pippali churn can be used according to doshi with anupan of ghrut or honey.

Wednesday, December 23, 2015

Today's topic for discussion: Diabetic foot....treating approach with #ayurveda

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Today's topic for discussion:  Diabetic foot....treating approach with #ayurveda

Vd. Prerak Shah: I have never treated this condition. But I have heard abt a homeopath indoor hospital in mumbai for this disease. Hope Ayurveda practitioner can do same someday.

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: I have read that diabetic foot  should be kept in vessel full of caster oil. For few days. And that foot has stopped decaying up til 40% . It is written in book of bapalal Vaidya I guess. I will confirm that in a day. A 1999 study xiv was carried out to determine whether or not topical castor oil would stimulate the lymphatic system. The findings were positive. After a two-hour treatment with castor oil packs, there was a significant increase in the number of T-11 cells, which increased over a seven-hour period following treatment. Lymphatic congestion is a major factor leading to inflammation and disease. This is where castor oil comes in. When castor oil is absorbed through your skin (according to Cayce and McGarey), your lymphocyte count increases. Increased lymphocytes speed up the removal of toxins from your tissues, which promotes healing. Courtesy mercola.com

Dr. Hardik- MD: I treat a patient with severe diabetic foot with nimba twaka kwath(azadiracta indica) and panch valkal kwath for parishek and parakshalan (wash) and bhumyamalki powder and trifla gugglu for prameha and for vrana.
Everyday dressing with jatyadi tail. Unfortunately I have no photos in my mobile now….If I will get than I will share definitely.

Bunty Gandhi: Nishosiradi Tailam is good for diabetic complications... Dont know about d foot but whenever my father feels burning sensation in feet,local application of nishoshiradi taila helps him. He gets burning sensation in feet usually in mango seasons only cause he eats 'mango milk shake' a lot..!

Vd. Hardik bhatt: Contains of nishishiradi tail ..? Or is it available ready made?

Bunty Gandhi: Haridra Ushir Bala Eladighana Kalka til taila base…Its a shashrokt ...Book Ref.:  Shashra Yoga ..

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: There is always difficulty in healing as there is high blood sugar, and bacteria survives because of sugar..so I think its necessary to wash out that bacteria with bitter taste(tikta rasa) and kashaya rasa dravyas ...Vasa svarasa, Nimbatwak Kwath, Trifala kashaya, Vidanga kashaya and other Kashayas mentioned in Kushtha chikitsa are helpful in healing with proper management of diabetes...

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: What can we take meaning of seven prameh pidikas described in samhitas as...
เคธเคฐाเคตिเค•ा เค•เคš्เค›เคชिเค•ा เคœाเคฒिเคจी เคธเคฐ्เคทเคชि เคคเคฅा।
เค…เคฒเคœी เคตिเคจเคคाเค–्เคฏा เคš เคตिเคฆ्เคฐเคงि เคšेเคคि เคธเคช्เคคเคฎी।
Does Anybody has used sfatika for Dressing in diabetic foot.
Personally i have never cured or worked on diabetic foot…..So eager to know thanks to Vd. Prerak sir for considering this as a topic


Monday, December 21, 2015

Wrist pain, tennis elbow or painful elbow joint...# ayurvedic treatment suggestions

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Today's topic for discussion:  Wrist pain, tennis  elbow or painful elbow joint....# ayurvedic treatment suggestions

Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: A common cause of wrist pain is carpal tunnel syndrome.

Bunty Gandhi: Yes..

Vd. Prerak Shah: Simple arthritic changed can also be common cause.

Dr. Pulatsya Vora: Wrist pain-many causes but the major one is overuse as in case of writer or sport person(tennis;badminton;cricket) and and another major cause is obesity -particularly after pregnancy and  Carpal-tunnel Syndrome-may be due to above two causes or due to steroid therapy. The treatment is rest; correction of spasm of nerves and muscles and subsiding pain. Panchgun tailam is useful.

Bunty Gandhi: Long use of keyboard also cause such pain..

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: My father is suffering from wrist joint pain since 2009... He underwent for many tests , all were normal...he is diabetic..before 6 year ago he groan in night, he asked me for something in midnight, I fumbled for a while.. I gave yograj gugglu as placibo, as I knew that it will not give relief.. Then I got one idea of Upnaha sweda, but I had not any material in midnight..after that I got dough in freeze..I gave fomentation of dough and he got completely relief... After that I always give him hot fomentation of dough and pippli churna for relief and he gets... เค–เคฒ्เคฒी เคคु เคชाเคฆเค•เคฐเคฎुเคฒ เค…เคตเคฎोเคŸเคจी...เค•เคฐเคฎुเคฒ- wrist joint…….Upnaha is treatment of khalli...

Vd. Prerak Shah: I agree with Vd. Pankaj. Upanah is my choice of therapy. I explain it as pizza svedana to my foreign students. We can add several kitchen herbs and spices in dough. Like ginger, fenugreek, mustard, sesame, garlic, turmeric etc.

 Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: Pizza swedana.....sir take patent of this word..I like it..

Vd. Prerak Shah: Yes. It's easy to remember for them. It look like pizza base. The word ‘Upnah’ is not easy to remember and also not easy to pronounce for foreigners.

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: In vatavyadhi , charaka has given lot of upnaha swedana (pizza swedana ) for pain..

Bunty Gandhi: Ajmodadi Choorna is useful for pain relief.

Germany Helga Fuchs: different possibilities for wrist pain. Slesaka K is disturbed,create instability, heavyness, pain, inflamation.  Rheumatic disorders due V,PK Vikruti. Rest, diet, lepa, pizza type (upanah?), in rheuma little hot oil and dry and hot lepa.  Regular routine is must for all types with enough sleep and reduce stress for mind and body. Virecan, Basti, Massage. To avoid incompatible food is must. And shure, to much pressure or movement is not good. Simple rasayan like milk with turmeric, almond, ghee, or small cleaning with milk and castor oil ones a week, is good for pain and to calm Vata. In Rist Pain rest for the rist in this time is needed. Triphala, Ashwaghanda...

Vd. Neha Dipam Tripathi: Good discussion about upnah….I have done so many upnah…..I have made upnah of  mash (Udad) + sindhav (rock salt) + nirgundi swras + ark patra + ajwain…..Gives best result in pain

Anand Zaveri: I've noticed good & quick results in different kind of joint pains with wild apricot oil external application.

Canada Nitin Shah: Boswelia is also useful.
Sunil Sharma: Is this Ayurvedic ???

Canada Nitin Shah: Yes, it is a gum resin and in India available on the name of Sallaki

Dr. Monaliben: I got result in painful elbow joint by only calcium intake.  I didn't need to take even guggulu as pain killer at that time.

Dr sumit Thakkar: Root cause should be treated

Vd. Dipak Upadhyay: Sorry I am trying to learn....so please help me.
Wrist pain → can v use   เคธ्เคตेเคฆเคจ , เคธ्เคจेเคนเคจ เค•เคฎॅ & เคจिॅเค—ुंเคกी ?

Vd. Piyush Prajapati: In wrist pain,I m doing rakt moxan by jaloka.   Bcz  I think there is raktdusti and vaat vrudhhi always in pain.. typically in wrist joint and calcaneus pain.. I have 3 patients who has total pain relief in single sitting of jaluka.

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: for elbow pain - upanah svedan, orally dashmula +rasnadi kwath……very effective

Vd. Tushar Trivedi: Jalaukavacharana is helpful...It improves healing..

Vd .Rajendra vasaiya : For elbow pain locally abhyang and swedan given, maha yograj guggul, trayodashang guggul with maha rasnadi kwath.....


Surat Vd Mukul Patel: Snehan Sweden , orally dashmool  or Rasnaarendadi erendadi kashayam  with sunthi if necessary. Depending  upon  the  severity  of the symptoms  other vat shaman drugs can be added

Tuesday, December 15, 2015

Keloids - #Ayurveda approach?

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Today's topic for discussion:   Keloids  - #Ayurveda approach?

Dr Dipak Shirude: This is incurable and needs continuous care and medications to avoid further progress and complications ..Aarogyavardhini, Trifala guggulu, Kanchanar guggulu, Laghusutshekhar

Germany Helga Fuchs: Question: soft virecana and nasya, diet etc. what is with basti treatment? Can it be added to catch the vataimbalance and inflammation on the roots? With adviced herbs there must come deeper process for balance V. Patients get stronger. As I know, if there is any cancerous activity, abhyanga should not be given. We increase kapha by them and cells growing get helph. Hm, but if patient is strong and able for cleaning processes, it must be possible to give him good "diet" due basti. The increased V due cleaning should be not dominant enough to create more trouble. And start with basti on the 9day after virecana gives the body better food as any diet can do. I remember that patient who is not able to eat we feed him rectal. In this case eating is sometime not easy and patient suffering due weakness. Weakness creates pressure and V increase. Inflammation to. Sorry if I am wrong.

Dr Dipak Shirude: Pratisaaran = Application of combination of suksma choornas and honey with some pressure on the fibrosed patches ..
Followed by Gandush

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: Keloid incurable in allopathy

Shri Minoo parabia: Keloid is the inherited tendency from immediate or remote parents. Any injury may result in a keloid on healing for such patients. Remedy not yet known to us. Some one may through light.

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: Ksharkarma can be answer but i have no experience.

Vd. Prerak Shah: For keloids, I have tried everything with PK. Including vaman, virechan etc. But no result.

Shri Minoo parabia: If you do that you will end up with added extra keloids. Even plastic surgery doesn't work. It is genetic tendency. Healing of wound precipitate extra tissue mass.

Dr Dipak Shirude: Never try ksharkarma or anything like that on keloid .. If you try to disturb that tissue, it grows with more vigour .. I have tried once or twice Jalaukavacharan .. It proved worth along with internal medicines .. It even reduces but not completely vanished ..The most frustrating thing in keloid is that it grows secondary infections ..To keep it clean and save it from sepsis is the main motto ..


Vd. Ajay Pithiya: As this is related to genetic tendency any surgical removal technique will worsen the condition..

Oral submucous fibrosis (OSMF) and its #Ayurveda approach

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Today's topic for discussion:  Oral submucous fibrosis (OSMF) and its #Ayurveda approach

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: No direct correlation of the disease OSMF is found in our classics. But  we find description of symptoms like difficulty in opening the mouth – Krichhen, vivrinoti mukham; burning sensation in mouth – Mukhadaha, Usha-
intolerance to spicy food - Tikshna asaha; dryness of mouth-Mukhasosha;
defective gustatory sensation- Arasagyata, Alparasagyata, Virasagyata;
ulceration of the oral mucosa-Mukhantargata Vrana ; Fibrosis-Vranavastu,
Durutha Vrana, but these all are present in scattered form. Mukharbuda - The
dreadful complication of OSMF finds a mention in our classics.
Sthanika Chikitsa:
i)Mukha dhavana: Cleaning the oral cavity with Kwatha of triphala, patha,
draksha and jati pallava with Madhu. (A.H.U)
ii)Pratisarana: It is a procedure wherein medicines are applied locally to
the part affected. Local application prevent or suppress the inflammatory reactions,  thereby preventing fibers by decreasing fibroblastic proliferation and deposition of  collagen . Pippali, lavana ,haridra, yashti madhu, Ela, madhu, laksha etc can used for this purpose.
iii)Kavala and gandusha : This can be done with tailas like haridradi taila,
yashtimadhu taila, jatyadi taila or even with madhu or gritha. This not only acts as
a biogenous stimulator-by accelerating cellular metabolism, increase blood
circulation and tissue vascularity (Courtesy dr suja banglore)
Vd. Prerak Shah: We consider tobacco chewing is major cause for OSMF. May be in time of Ayurveda, tobacco was not there?! That's why the condition was not much familiar.

Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara: Another research article on OSMF http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4395929/

Dr Dipak Shirude: There is direct correlation with o s m f in Ayurved !! I have done clinical study and a kind of research years ago .. Find || maans sanghaat || in Sushrutas text .. We got sure results with Pratisaaran and Gandush chikitsa ..Systemic treatment  : Aarogyavardhini and other adjuvants is useful .. And of course .. Nidaan parivarjan is must ..

Shri Minoo parabia: At RMD Hospital. Vagaldhara. We used to receive scores of patient from all over the country. Not all but most of them had history of chewing things. My observation is, not only tobacco but any other thing, may be sopari/areca nut, clove kept at one particular site is the constant source of irritation resulting in to death of submucosal cell death. Buccal cavity has highest regeneration capacity turning out newer generations of cell every day. This active state needs constant supply of vit B and healthy nuclear material. Irritants cause mutation,  when inherited,  result in to cancerous growth. More dangerous were metastatic states. The treatment offered was........Kaval/gandush by Gaumutra. Solutions of Akakia,  trifala. Local Application of gairic, tume F mixed with honey.
Kanchnar, Abhrak bhasma, Annasaheb patrwardhan kadha based tab Carcinocare.
Or decoction it self. Panchgavya daily in the morning.  Diet restrictions.
Only cows milk, ghee. Jav/barley, unpolished rice, mung, papaya, pomegranate. Oat, were allowed. Flex seeds with paneer were given occasionally.
Success rate, if without metastasis,  was about 30%. Fresh water extract of giloy, kumarpathu,  bhoy pathri, bilipatra, tulsi was given every day.
Decoction of tulsi were refilled in earthen matkas every day for patients to drink. Raw water was not allowed. Symptomatic regimem like chhardiripu, hemogon, hemomore, Arogyavardhini, agnitundi vati. Bronchonil,  Asthacure, Bhallatak ghrit,  were used.

Vd. Dipam Tripathi: My 2 pt. Only 10% relife please suggest me good treatment?

Vd. Prerak Shah: It is not compulsory that all OSMF cases turn into cancer, but it is increasing all times.....as Parabia sir mentioned ..the cause is not only tobacco...but chewing / keeping any substance in mouth on one place and creating friction ....results in inflammation and ultimately ulcers...but developing submucous fibrosis is also threatening condition. Sometimes my patients with OSMF, dont have ulcers or inflammaiton...but they simply cant open the mouth, cant eat any solid food, mouth opening is hardly 5 mm, and sometimes painful too. Then it is very difficult to treat. Usually I go with oil gandush, local - external abhynag and svedana and nasya too.

Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: OSMF:-
On analyzing the disease condition with Ayurvedic approach, it seems to be nearer to Vata-Pittadominant chronic Sarvasara Mukharoga, Factors include
Areca nut chewing, Ingestion of chilies, Genetic and Immunologic processes, Nutritional deficiencies, and other factors.
After Koshthashuddhi(mild purgation) and Shodhana Nasya; Pratisarana(external application) with Madhupippalyadi Yoga,Kavala(gargling) with Ksheerabala Taila and internally Rasayana Yoga useful..

Vd. Ajay Pithiya: Supari - areca nut is main culprit to cause osmf..  As continous long term irritation on daily basis does not let to heal and thus fibrous tissue occura.  Secondly caustic (chuna) also cause irritation. Osmf can be called as chronic healed wound..  Sushrut has given 60 upkrama for better healing of wound...  I think we have to concentrate on that.. Local application nd treatment are must... Pratisharan …..Gandush or kaval is beneficial

Vd. Dipam Tripathi: In my pt....they all are tobbeco chewing whole day....
In treatment i give kshirbala oil gandush..Kshirbala 101 paki...nasya
Forpratisaran...yastimadhu, Arogyavardhini, satvbal tab....and ofcourse abhayng swedan....bt not gave me satisfaction

Shri Minoo parabia: The sclerosis coupled with calcification hardens mucosa so much that mouth can not open.

Vd. Mahesh Akani: I haveNo pt of OSMF but one time A pt . He is suffering with complete lock of jaw. Advised as Externaly lepan of Gobar, int Gomutra with water & cow's food yav, when it's comes from Gobar, it's became his food
  we seen good result

Vd. Ajay Pithiya: paper published in "AYU" journal by gujarat ayurved university

Oral submucous fibrosis (OSMF) is a chronic debilitating disease of the oral cavity characterized by inflammation and progressive fibrosis of the lamina propria and submucosa, that results in marked rigidity and eventually inability to open the mouth.
 It manifests as blanching and stiffness of the oral mucosa, trismus, burning sensation in the mouth, intolerance to eating hot and spicy foods, repeated vesicular eruption and ulceration of the buccal mucosa, palate and pillars, loss of gustatory sensation, etc.
Habit of betel nut and tobacco chewing, excessive consumption of chilies and spices, genetic susceptibility, immune mediated process, smoking, drinking alcohol coupled with dietary deficiencies are thought to be the causative factors
of the OSMF, but there is compelling evidence to implicate the habitual chewing of areca nut with the development of OSMF.
Probably involved pathogenesis is stimulation of fibroblast production, increased collagen synthesis due to areca nut alkaloids mainly arecoline along with stabilization of collagen structure by catechin and tannin contents of areca nut. Worldwide estimate of OSMF indicates that 2.5 million people are affected with most cases connected on the Indian subcontinents, especially southeast India.  An epidemiological assessment of the prevalence of OSMF among Indian villagers based on baseline data, recorded a prevalence of 0.2%  (n  =  10071) in Gujarat and 0.4%  (n  =  10287) in Kerala.  
The alarming fact is that there has been a drastic increase in the incidence of OSMF in the younger age group in India as PanMasala and Gutka are easily available in most part of the country even to young children.

Bunty Gandhi: Is recurrent mouth ulceration is one of primary symptoms of OSF  ?

Dr. Hardik- MD: In OSMF 150gm pure alum powder + 75 gm rock salt + 10 gm (clove)syzygium aromaticum + 5 gm karpur (camphor) mix it closely and put it in glass bottle and early morning instruct to patient for scrubbing in mouth with this powder.  Before  this scrubbing gargling with 1 glass of hot water. Than scrub it with brush on gums and tooth. After scrubbing again gargling with 1 glass of hot water. Than tell to patient blow up his/her mouth for 5 to 10 minutes. Don't eat any thing for 1 hour after this mouth cleaning. Tell to patient strictly to avoid tobacco chewing or any bad habit…With this powder pt will get benefit after few weeks.

Dr. Pulastya Vora: I have got encouraging results with Irmedadi tailam

Vd. Piyush prajapati: I think that Fibrosis is exactly Kaph xay janya vaat vrudhhi condition.   Gandush of Decoction of black till added with Jaggery in TDS dose may help in OSMF..  Gandush is better than Kaval. Patient is also advised for some facial exercise which exactly work for maxilo mandibular muscle .  Patient can b suggested for Local Massage of Til Oil at night ..

Dr. J. T. Contractor: Rigidity in jaw joints & gum,due to excessive use of chewing tobacco/ Gurkha is Sub Mucus Fibrosis causes tightness in opening full mouth( hardly mouth opens a centimeter) difficulty in chewing food. Best way to make the jaw flexible by massaging it with oil preferably rectified caster oil mixed wth sweeten mint oil, glycerin can be used in place of caster oil, more than thrice a day, optimum result found in a month or so


Wednesday, December 9, 2015

Ulcerative colitis.... # Ayurvedic approach

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Today's topic for discussion:  Ulcerative colitis.... Ayurvedic approach

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: Ulcerative colitis is shokatisar according to ayurveda.i treated few patients successfully at my clinic by shirodhara+basti. Overall i found that till 3 yrs after treatment patient was having no symptoms but medicines continued. But as soon as real estate prices crashed he is ill again.you can see his testimonial on. www.gujaratayurveda.com
Ayurveda says because of financial loss or loss of life of close relative may lead to excessive stress and can lead to condition like sokatisar or ulcerative colitis.so removing stress can be first line of treatment. Now a days, in competitive world there are so many Reasons of stress. and till today allopathy reached only at conclusion that ulcerative colitis may have psychosomatic origin. …….If in patient of ulcerative colitis if you find no reason of stress then can be treated as raktatisar…..It has different etiology that "เคชिเคค्เคคाเคคिเคธाเคฐी เคฏो เค…เคค्เคฏเคฐ्เคฅं เคชिเคคเคฒाเคจि เคจिเคทेเคตเคคे เคคเคธ्เคฏ เคชिเคค्เคคं เค…เคธृเค— เคฆเค—्เคงเคตा เคฐोเค—ाเคฏ เค•เคฒ्เคชเคฏเคคे।"………..

Bunty Gandhi: I have seen my relative who was even told by allopathic doctors that you are not going to live more after two years treatment was successfully treated by some tribal healer from nandurbar..

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: Means a person who is suffering from pitatisar and still taking more pitt aggravating things can lead to raktatisar.(bloody diarrhoea)

Shri Minoo parabia: Amoebic,  gerardiasis,  irritable bowels ultimately culminate in to UC……Gluten free diet is the first advice. Stop wheat. Milk and fried food.
Bilwadi and/or brihat gangadhar administered with curd or buttermilk helps.
Brahmi + yastimadhu and Psyllium make effective treatment……As the case may be other symptom based drugs are sanjivani vati, kutaj vati and Karpurras vati.

Vd. Sunil Suthar : Nice topic !  I have treated a case in the past !  Suffering with ulcerative colitis, Sign & symptoms were , frequency of stool : 4-5 times in a day , but every time semi solid or liquid and occasionally abd. Pain is der , meleana is der ! Digestive system also dusturbed, weight loss 12 kg within 6 months and lots of tries in allopathy but did nt recover! When he came with me :
I simply treated with Tb. Kutaj parpati vati , Tb. Dysentrol( goswami pharma ), Ajmodadi + avippatikar churna, Bilagyl ( sandu), And kutajarishtam !
Within 4 months wonderful results der ! His all complains near to subside ,5 kg wieght gain ! And bowel is complete ok single time !
Diet restrictions : Spicy , oily , menda , non veg . Strictly prohibited , Butter milk with zeerak powder twice in a day after food ! And advise to take 40% less diet !
Here mochras or pichchabaati also gives good results but he is also suffering with piles so it was not managed by me ! But with only oral medicines and diet control ! Wonderful result is der !

Dr. Archana Panchal: Diet is most important , wheat & milk strictly stop, take roti of rice&bajara, mung dal rice, take Apple , anar, banana , dudhi parval galka turiya can be taken.     Shirodhara is benefited for this pt.I have treated pts with stricket diet & simple medicine

Dr. Devesh Kumar: Kutaj ghan vati+ jirkasava+ sutshekhar rasa is also beneficial in this case

Vd. Dhruti Kagrana: According to Ayurveda, ulcerative colitis is primarily a disease of Pitta dosha with varying degrees of Vata involvement. The latter determines how extensively the inflammatory process will spread proximally and the development of extraintestinal manifestations. Ulcerative colitis is, additionally, a disease of purisha vaha srota (channels carrying fecal material)………The excessive consumption of paittika ahara (Pitta-aggravating foods) and Pitta-aggravating regimens initially damages both rakta dhatu and mamsa dhatu. Vata dosha in the lower colon is also aggravated and in the early stages blocks the Pitta and Kapha channels causing further inflammation, mucous accumulation and edema.

Bunty Gandhi: Brihad Gangadhara Choorna is also very benefitial.

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: Stop Milk totally is idea of allopathy. According to ayurveda goat milk is best remedy for raktatisar.... i have tried it on number of patients and got satisfactory results.

Vd. Dipam Tripathi: I agree qith dr. Jignesh

Dr Dipak Shirude: This era is very much easier to practice Ayurved effectively, as many standardised and effective aushadhikalpas are available ....Ulcerative colitis . as per my experience . needs to rearrange the food habit of the patient . I usually advice these patients to be on Takrahar or Dugdhahar . And to observe strict avoidance of leafy vegetables ……Initially a little dose of Haritaki very early in the morning with warm water for 2/3 days is useful to eliminate excess doshas …..Then onwards . .. . Mochras (gum of shalmali), kutaj, bilwa unripe fruit pulp, musta, shunthi, prawal, kamdudha, udumbar twak, arjun, shatavari are used as per situation . Bolbaddha Ras, Raktastambhak, Mouktikyukta prawalpanchamrit . are also some adjuvants …….Pichha basti by drip method is instant useful in severity ……Lajaanna, mudgayush, coconut water, sitaphalam pulp, dadim swaras etc.  .. These are useful as tarpan I.e. to keep the patient's bal normal ..

Shri Minoo parabia: Goat milk has antimicrobial property. Therefore acts well on TB too. Continuous consumption may even affect intestinal microflora responsible for vit B production hence stomatitis.

Vd. Mahesh Akani: ulcerative colitis means Shokaj Or Pittaj atisar . We advised Dhyan, simple Pranayama, Pitta shamak diet.... Shatavari swaras, Udumbar ghan vati, Kutaj parpati, Bilagyl sandu. Panchvalkal , musta, bilva,kutaj kwath + Dadim ghrit+ milk = Siddh ghrit basti

Vd. Ketan bhimani: Kashay ras pradhan panch valkal qwath orally is also best drug to control liquid n bleeding in colitis or IBS.

Vd. Pankaj Chhayani: In diarrhoea, there is reverse movement of fluid ( fluid move from all tissues toward GI tract, rather than GI to Tissue).. In this case movement from GI mucosa to general circulation (absorption) will become difficult..whatever the  condition may be of the mucus membrane of the GI tract, howsomuchever inflamed may it be, sugar is always welcome, it will instantly absorbed and with the sugar molecules whatever other molecules are accompanying it Will also get instant passage inside e.g. they also will get absorbed easily………..There is inflammation of mucosa in UC. Honey is best healer,containing sugar will help in absorbing other dravya too. I think honey must be added in all basti.. เค…เคคिเคฆ्เคฐเคตเคธเคฐเคฃ เคฎเคฒเคช्เคฐเคตृเคคि..this is cardinal symptom of Atisar...Drava and Sara both are gunas of pitta..เคธเคธ्เคจेเคน เคฆ्เคฐเคต เค…เคฎ्เคฒ เคธเคฐ เค•เคŸु...- เคชिเคค เค—ुเคฃ.... So we can say that there is pitta dominance in atisar.. And why susruta says that pitta should be treated first in case of tridishoja atisar while in other tridoshaj vikaras vata is first to be treated. So its clear cut there is pitta dominant in atisar(with vata and kapha)..………In UC, there is inflammation of mucosa, according to inflammation is not possible without pitta.... According to Ayurveda inflammation is not possible without pitta..

Dr. Rajnish MP: Takra kalp &  Pichha vasti good for ulcerative colitis
[12/9/2015, 1:08 AM] +91 98242 43567: I have very good results in all kind of colitis...with pichchabasti treatment....in most cases we give 10-12 days basti course + followed by formulas from Kutaja and/or  bilva .....within 2 months I start tapering the dose of Tab. azacol or Tab. mesacol (modern medicine) and steroids....within 4 months from basti, usually I am able to discontinue with modern medicines...pt continues with ayurveda (Kutaj, bilva, indrayav etc.) ....nearly after 8 to 12 months, I can see that patient gets complete freedom from ayurveda medicines too.  I have also good result in Crohn's syndrom. I will post colonoscopy reports (pre and post) in  short time for all members.

Vd. Dipam Tripathi: Pichha basti.....best result

Vd. Neha Dipam Tripathi: Pichcha basti yastimadhu sidhdha sneh for healing if colon bilv,kutaj ,sutsekahr ras and if bleeding is there aja khsir and bleeding is not there takra gives good result…..Any condition related to mental stress shirodhara sankhpuspi etc medhya drugs are useful in ulcerative colitis

Germany Helga Fuchs: Good information s thank you, I remember if patient come with this problem.

Vd. Hardik bhatt: I will share an experience…. One pt. was advised to take medicines for tuberculosis (TB) without confirm diagnosis……He got reacted….developed ulcers in intestine…then pt was on steroids…...  Daily motion freq. 15-20  times…with blood and pus .I started  piccha basti…8 days every month ….for 6 month. pt got complete relief for 1 year….advised for Pathya diet… .. tapered dose of Steroid by allopath doctor… .

Dr. Hardik- MD: Vatsakadi vati(punarvasu) is helpful in sannipataj and raktaatisar.
Tab shallki 400mg (gufic) is also very helpful in raktaatisar. we can add sfatika powder in pichcha basti for better relief. And jatyadi taila  matra basti will helpful in complication of pichcha basti like vata pravruti.

Vd. Ajay Pithiya: Nice all post…..In acute phase of UC (as pitta is more) dare to use any of ushna virya drug..  Not even stambhana drug...  Sama rakta and pitta relation create problems if we use any stambhana or ushna drug... In this condition picha basti is best to check the profuse bleeding…Drip method is again ideal…Drugs - paripathadi kadha,  audumbaravaleha,  praval,  mukta etc…Musta
Unripe Bilva fruit pulp, Ativisha , Are beneficial in this condition

Raymond Parabia:  Aragwadharish 2 spoon Tds, Belgarbh 100g + Boveline 200g
10g par day, If bleeding  Himegon, 6-8g par day, Success rates of 80% …15% Relapse

Vd. Ajay Pithiya: For chronic cases..  We can give anuloman (if needed) but with a lot precautions..  Again drugs are same but use of gold or rasayan is needed..  Parpati prayog can help here..  Takra kalpa also beneficial……My favorite yogas are from sharangdhara for this disease and they are Vatsakadi kashaya and
Laghu gangadhar churna..… As this disease also have psychosomatic relation shirodhara and medhya aushadhi help in some of the cases.. …Many of the uc cases turns into colonic cancer,  so we must have to think and watch the condition for betterment of pt.

Vd. Milan prajapati: Indrayav is choice of drug

Vd. Bhavesh Thakkar: Almost everything is said about ulcerative colitis.
Parpati is missing which I use a lot in UC patients…..Panchamrit Parpati
Along with herbs mentioned by vaidyas like kutaj bilva indrayava mochras nagarmoth ativish sunthi haritaki nagkesar etc when and needed

Vd. Kundan Gadhavi: tab enterid also works good, panchamrita parpati, ativish,shankh bhasma,pippali

Vd. Prerak Shah: If all are finish with their remarks, let me put a last note...an evidence of pichchabasti treatment in Crohn's. Pl carefull read the dates of pre and post reports. Unbelievable Improvement...Can it be possible with any other medicines?

Vd. Jignesh Thakkar: Plz share sir and also send detail composition of basti given by you


Vd. Prerak Shah: Basti combination: Panvalkal kwath + mocharas + kutaj + indrayav + shatavari ghrut + Padmakadi oil…......let's conclude this subject. Thnx all.

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