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Uttarbasti …..a special #ayurveda treatment
Dr
Sandeep kakuste Nandurbar: 24 yr female pt h/o ectopic pregnancy last yr, operated rt tube removed,
now hsg done but Lt tubal block Plz advice treatment
Vd. Binal
Jagani: In tubal
blockage arka patra sweda very beneficial
Dr.
Sushant Patil:
Kumari siddha tel uttar basti also beneficial. Shankha bhasma internally too
Vd. Avni
Kaneria: Vrunadi
kwath is also useful....
Dr
Sandeep kakuste Nandurbar: @Dr sushant patil sir shankh bhasma how it works on tubal blockage and
how many times kumar siddh tail basti
Dr. Sushant Patil: Uttar basti of
Kumari Siddha tail
Many Vaidya also use Kshar taila basti too but
I hadn't seen or used it.
I
treated patients . 3 basti settings 3
times with interval of 5 days in each 3 settings.
Dr
Sandeep kakuste Nandurbar: Plz share Dr s ur valuable opinion
Dr. Sushant Patil: But about Shankh I can not say what
is the path of action. You may consider it As a Aapta Vachana as I also used it
Dr. Abha.
l. Ravi: Uttara
vasthi with shadpala ghritha is also good
Vd.
Tanuja Gokhale: The
anatomy is mentioned as Tryavarta Yoni ie it has 3 avarta or layers similar to
Shankha. Besides, shankha bhasma is deepan pachan anuloman, vibandhhar n a
kshar so may act to clear blockages is the thought behind using it.
Dr. Arvind Shahane: Vadhya Ramdas ahvad sir uses kshar
oil utter basti n gets very good results in tubal blockage
Vd.
Tanuja Gokhale: SO,
many vaidyas use Kshar tail in Maharashtra to clear tubal block.
Dr. Sushant Patil:
Dr. Sushant Patil: What's ur experience or thinking
about case like this
Dr. Shruthi Arun: Best thing to go with
vamana first, That too repeated shodhana will help in this case, Then suggest
some medhya drugs- like Brahmi to regulate HPO axis, Then lashunaadi vati to
increase rasa dhatu, Then some rasayanas
Dr. Shruthi Arun: Uttarabasti with
kshara taila will give very good results - done on alternate days from 10th ,
12th n 14th day of LMP ,
Dr. Dayanand Bothre: Mam for how many
cycle??
Dr.
Shruthi Arun: For 3
cycles
Dr. Dayanand Bothre: After 3 cycle if
block remain then should we repeat?? Or if repeat then for how many times we
can give kshar basti?
Dr. Shruthi Arun: Usually it won't
remain,
If at all it
remains you can repeat on alternate cycles for next 3 cycles
Dr.
Shruthi Arun: Once
you can even go with mustaadi yapana basti in b/w ,
Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: Any
complications see in uttara basti?
Dr. Dayanand Bothre: After kshar basti
is patients compliant about burning or any irritation
Dr. Shruthi Arun: Till now in my practice I haven't
seen any complications
We need to
do under aseptic measures
Nope, There
might be slightly dragging pain in pelvic region which is very mild
Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: What type of precautions is
required during uttarbasti
Dr. Shruthi Arun: 1. Aseptic measures 2. Check BP before and after procedure 3. Before going for procedure USG / HSG should be done to
rule out abnormalities like unicornate uterus / septate uterus , 4. P/v done to
know the position of uterus
Dr.
Mrugeshkumar Patel: When complications occurred What type of treatment required?
Dr.
Dayanand Bothre: Mam
I also heard that falghrut basti is followed by kshar basti. So could you
please evaluate what is the logic behind this?
Dr.
Shruthi Arun: Phala
gritha will give nourishment to uterus,
Kshara taila
will have lekhana/ scraping properties which will scrap debris and make tubes
patent
Vd.
Ajayraj V. Bal: What
should be the matra of kshartail used in uttarbasti in tubal blockage?
Dr.
Sharmila Kulkarni:
As far my experience goes.Uttar basti with Kshatriya or Sanchar tail. is the
line of treatment. No complication,unless bit is done with all aseptic precaution.
Dr. Suyog
Kulkarni: Do you
mean Kshar taila and Sahachar taila ,dr. Sharmila ?
Precautions, Pt may feel a little pain or
discomfort initially
Dr. Sharmila Kulkarni: You can give Dashmool ghana vati 2
TDs to expect anti inflammatory action. Ask pt to reduce wt
Dr. Sharmila Kulkarni: This can be supplemented with
Phalakalyanak ghruta
Doctor,
where is the block? If at fimbrial end easy to treat
Any history
of Tuberculosis?
Dr. Bhadresh Naik: Tb of fallopian
tubes Of course debut is good. Results are encouraging but my personal opinion
about tb is different. Along with anti tb drugs ayurvedic treatment is suggests.Because advance tb having lots of complications
Vd.
Dhruti Nirav Bhatt:
Uttarbasti has very good result but precaution is very important .one patient
with infertility gave uttarbasti and Anaphylatic shock ,pain
Vd. Piyush Prajapati: What to do when
anaphylatic shock occurs??
Dr.
Mrugeshkumar Patel:
Perforation,coma what to do?
Dr. Tukaram Shinde: Vaat dosha related
to
Dr.
Suvarna V. Khairnar:
In uttarbasti according to you what should be done to avoid anaphylactic shock
and any other complications purvakarma?
Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Vat shaman medicines give before
treatment don't give empty stomach and Yastimadhu ghanvati Laghuvasant Malibu
tab gives good result
Vd.
Dhruti Nirav Bhatt:
Laghuvasant malini tab . U can give lemon water with suger or glucosewater
Vd. Piyush Prajapati: Proper counselling
is must..Dr must b jolly with patient. Complications must b told to patient at
some level. Patient must b observed by a lady beside her,holding hand of
patient. Eyes of patient must b covered by good cloth. She must b relaxed
before uttarvasti by Abhyanga and swedan of lower part of abdomen.Dr should
gain confidence about himself in mind of patient so later,patient is ready for
anything. She must b cared before and later . Later,she must b relaxed by
keeping her legs straight and overlapped. Her pulse and BP is noted before procedure and after procedure..Her pulse is
checked.
Keep
Sitopladi churn and honey mixture ready.. when u feel that pulse is less or
hypotension,then start to use Sitopladi with.honey..
Patient must
not get up till 10 minutes after completion of procedure
Vd.
Piyush Prajapati:
When u r pushing oil by syringe,u must remember that patient must not feel it..
so keep pushing oil by speed of 1 ml per minute so patient can't feel oil Vasti.
Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: What to do when
anaphylatic shock occurs??
Perforation,coma
what to do?
Dr. Shriniwas Gujjarwar: In this stage.
We have to manage acording to modern line of treatment of anaphylactic shock
(O2, iv line, life saving drugs etc.) . Otherwise patient may go in further
serous condition and death also.
Dr. Mrugeshkumar Patel: Any other treatment is required?
Dr.
Suvarna V. Khairnar:
Is Yogbasti karma compulsory done before uttarbasti
Vd. Piyush Prajapati: Put her head down
than leg. Leg must b up than head.
Never try to
make patient drink water in this type of shock. I write again,keep Sitopladi
churn and honey mixture ready. When shock occurs,just keep this in her mouth by
your hand.
Dr. Shriniwas Gujjarwar: In case of anaphylactic shock
occurs. .
Dr. Bhadresh Naik: What's causing factors. Is it
vasovagal shock
Dr. Abha. l. Ravi: Niroohath utharam va
deeyathe ithi .if we are doing uttara vasthi after nirooha we can expect more
result and less complications. Vatha will be under control
Dr.
Bhadresh Naik: We
must inform about proceed. Ensure her. See
the satva of patients
Vd. Piyush Prajapati: No.. vasovegal
shock occurs when patient see something bloody . Lower abdomen part of female
is too much sensitive and full of nerves internally. So when someone try to
make medicine enter the uterus,some pressure is created. if u pushing medicine
suddenly or fast,pain will started.. in a such completion,patient becomes
drowsy and then there is a shock.
Dr. Suvarna V. Khairnar: One of my friend who is practising
Ayurveda told me that inj. Atropine should be given before uttarbasti to avoid
anaphylactic shock . Is it necessary always?
Vd. Piyush Prajapati: Never.. I never gives..
Dr. Shriniwas Gujjarwar: It is better
Vd.
Piyush Prajapati:
Sometimes,first hard coitus also make such type of Complications.. if u have
heard in news.
Dr.
Gaurav Makan:
Atropine will increase the pulse rate of the patient causing tachycardia
Dr.
Gaurav Makan: Must check
the pulse before injecting.
Dr. Shriniwas Gujjarwar: For
uttarbasti-
1) Oil should
be steriled, autoclaved. 2) All equipments autoclaved 3) use sterile
instruments, gloves etc.4) aseptic precaution is must.5) should be done in
Steriled and fumigated O.T. or labour room. Not in opd or any room.6) keep
ready all emergency life saving drugs and oxygen .7) after all patients life is
important not procedure.8) written consent is to be taken prior to the
procedure. 9) expertise is also important for doing any procedure. (At least
should learn under expert for some days or months for perfection and to avoid
complications.
Dr.
Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: uttarbasti nice discussion. Too deep inutero may make uterus React hypertonic condition. Hypersensitive females may experience shock
due to Fear. Psychological preparation is pre-requisite as Purvakarma also
proper snehan swedan , virechan too. for +ve results.
if adverse reaction to uttarbasti, shock,
check vital sigs,Breathing esp.inj. Avil if BP too low iv.or else glucose
water. Keep MD Gynec' s ref. number on hand b4 proceeding( to stay out of
medicolegal cases in case of emergency.
Vd. Dhruti Nirav Bhatt: Sometimes patient may be sensitive
or due to spasmodic pain can be
Dr.
Shriniwas Gujjarwar:
This is not similar to basti or nasya. .Here you have to take very much
precautions to prevent the infection in the uterus /Bladder and also with kshar
may get irritation and cause ulcer too.
I have
experience of shock during uttarbasti in male for stricture of Urethra. For the same patient for first 4 sittings
nothing happened but 5th time patient went in anaphylactic shock. Started
sudden dyspnoea, cyanosis, tachycardia then bradycardia, hypotension etc.... I managed immediately
with life saving drugs and oxygen and he is survived. He is a jailor of Goa Jail.
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: uttarbasti
is too invasive procedure , full of risks, first try pichu dharan with khsar
tel or bastidravya,if pichu dharan is well tolerated then only proceed for
uttarbasti.
Dr
Sandeep kakuste Nandurbar: But mam pichudharan of khsar tel help tubal blockage
Dr.
Shriniwas Gujjarwar:
No use. Kshar Pichu will give irritation to vaginal wall.
Vd.
Dhruti Nirav Bhatt:
Sir I agree with you because its a very risky process .
Dr. Madhuri Patil Chaudhari: thats why
i typed 'if tolerated', if not Contraindicated for
uttarbasti..
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Compilation
courtesy: Vd. Kinshuk Hirpara & Vd. Dhruti Kagrana
Khartail+kasis tail are is very useful in tubal blockage as well as in fibroid
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